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Cobweb mold
    #322636 - 05/21/01 05:01 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Hello,
Does cobweb mold have a distinct smell? Or anything else that can be used to distinguish it from fluffy mycellium? I know cobweb mold is a greyish color but I can't tell if it's mold or just thin cottony mycellium, because of the casing showing through.

It's on my coir casing. But only in spots where mycellium has broken through. At first the mycellium was coming through as little thread-like rhizomorphs but now it seems to be receeding a little and looks like it is beginning to pin. Also the casing is in too much humidity, 98%, which is another reason why I'm thinking it's just fluffy mycellium. I really can't tell what color it is because it's rather whispy and the coir can be seen below it. Should I try and extract a piece and look at it on a black surface?

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #322655 - 05/21/01 05:18 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Upon closer examination it appears that the fluffy stuff has many very thin threadlike strings that extend out from the casing surface. They all appear to go straight from where they are growing and not just all over the place. It definitely looks more thread-like than cobweb like. But I am still uncertain. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #322660 - 05/21/01 05:24 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Often times as the cobweb takes hold, you will notice black spores in it, but like I said that is after it's been around for awhile. I've never noticed it having a smell tho.

More often than not you should be able to tell the difference..

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
    #322668 - 05/21/01 05:28 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Have you noticed a distinct difference in the way it grows compared to mycellium? It seems to me after looking at some pictures that a good indicator is how the mycellium grows straight rhizomorphs and the cobweb goes in every direction. But I can't be certain I have only seen a few pictures.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #322679 - 05/21/01 05:40 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

If you suspect it might be cobweb mold then its probably just easier to go the safe route and treat it as if it was.....it doesnt hurt the mycellium too much to treat it with h2o2....I figure better safe then sorry.

This is the exact reason why i suggested that we have a contamination forum.....there isn't enough Information on contams on this website...and we all know what a problem it is.
If you are also interested in this please leave some comments in my post titled CONTAMINATION FORUM? in the suggestion forum. If the Admins are going to add this....they have to know we want it.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: Karen]
    #322861 - 05/21/01 09:02 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

I concur with Karen...cobweb isn't very hard to wipe out, and very rarely penetrates deeply.

Good Luck.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
    #322945 - 05/21/01 10:40 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

I looked at it again and I am pretty sure it's mycellium. The casing is also starting to pin, should I still treat with h2o2?

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #323026 - 05/22/01 01:03 AM (22 years, 10 months ago)

You are the only one that can call that...it depends on how sure you are of it not being cobweb mold.

I just recently cased a jar that had grown a small area of green mold...I cut out a large portion of the jar and cased it by itself. The casing started pinning on one half and then practically overnight there was green mold all over the other half. As soon as the casing started pinning I figured that I had managed to cut out the green mold successfully. Guess I was wrong.

Is it pinning anywhere near the area that you think might be cobweb mold? or is completely avoiding that area? That might be a good indicator.

It's really hard to say...you just have to use your best judgement with this one. Maybe someone else with a some experience with cobweb mold can give you some more advice....I haven't had it before...the only contam I seem to get is green mold. I have read my fair share on it though.

Good luck.
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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #323253 - 05/22/01 11:15 AM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Cobweb is grey. Extract a piece and lay it on a white surface. Or just compare it to some healthy mycelia.


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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: puscle]
    #323313 - 05/22/01 12:38 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

I think what you describe is classic cobweb. Are there small darkish tips? Do they seem to grow straight up no more than a centimeter? Do they never seem to form rizomorphs? I could be wrong but it sounds like cobweb.


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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: kingkc]
    #323324 - 05/22/01 12:47 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

yo im havin the same problem except mine looks like white puffballswith short threadlike strands. i cant even get mine pinning though and im affraid its all cobwebed up , but there are no other colors except white that show it beiing mycelium. i dunno what the deal is but i cold shocked and fed some light and fanned and misted and all that fun stuff and still no pins. im begginin to believe its all contamed from this white puff ball stuff.. im scared to say its actually smells a little like fruit loops, im assuming this means trouble..



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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
    #323384 - 05/22/01 01:56 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

First time growing? Sounds to me like hyphel knots, which usually is a precursor to pinning...pluck those 'puffs' (dry and save em; they are every bit as edible) and just keep on doing what you've been doing, and I'm guessing you'll prolly be ok.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
    #323431 - 05/22/01 02:50 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Yea I thought mine was never going to pin but it just started, right after this, what I thought was cobweb mold. I am pretty sure it's not since it really isn't spreading, and my humidity is quite high. And after a few pictures I have come to the observational conclusion that cobweb mold is a jumble of hair-like structures that go every which way and the mycellium for the most part grow fairly straight from the center. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #323439 - 05/22/01 02:56 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

You're absolutely right...cobweb is stringy and thin, resembling, um, cobwebs...

Mycelium has a growth pattern that reminds me of frost freezing...starts at a point and works its way outward like the waves after throwing a rock.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: hatter]
    #323552 - 05/22/01 04:53 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

if its not bright white then get the peroxide. better safe than sorry use in on your casing even if pinning. dont go overboard with the h2o2 either or you'll be back in 3 days complaining you now have green. (it degrades into water you see)

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: shizifty]
    #323694 - 05/22/01 07:36 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Good point shizifty I don't think too many people realize that.

Hydrogen Peroxide when exposed to light for long enough, or heat, or vigorously shaken will degrade into water. It is a very unstable molecule, with a very weak ionic bond,  do to the extra oxygen. So if you think putting h202 in your perlite is gonna keep it fresh forever think again. It will probably turn to water after a day or so of light. But just think you get contamination resistance at first then water and extra oxygen. So it does work out pretty good, at least. :smile:

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #323725 - 05/22/01 08:21 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

ill post u some pics in a little bit , maybe u guys can telll me what it looks like to u



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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
    #323730 - 05/22/01 08:23 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)

Cool, pics always good for learning! They say a thousand words, or more.

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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: magnusra]
    #323847 - 05/22/01 11:21 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)


pic! does it look like cobweb or what?



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Re: Cobweb mold [Re: pl151]
    #323851 - 05/22/01 11:26 PM (22 years, 10 months ago)


heres up close , what do u think???



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