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Offlinedoug_E_fresh
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Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP
    #3237460 - 10/09/04 10:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



Hey. I harvested about 4oz of dryed shrooms like a week and a half ago. I picked them all off the casing, cut the caps off from the stems, and put them out on tons and tons of paper towels and put a big fan on them. They dryed out in like 2 days (not cracker dry, but pretty dry). I baggied them all up, and last night I gave a friend an 1/8 to try, and one of his friends an 1/8, he said he only felt a minor body high for like an hour, then came down, and his friend didn't feel anything.

See, I gave out a few 1/8ths like the 1st day and 2nd say they were dry, and the guys tripped balls like crazy. Now a week and half later, nothing at all!?!?

My big ass question is... Did I do anything wrong that they lost there psilocybin and psilocin? I have beeen doing this for a while (a year and a half), and I always seemed to get rid of them in a day or two. This is the first time they sat a week and a half. They didn't sit in ANY heat, EVER. I dryed them with a fan, so the temp on them was probably like 72 degrees.

They look perfectly fine, and I am going to take an 1/8 tonight and so is my buddy, but what happened??!?!?

thanks

P.S. - Here is the pic of my flush that they came from. (they were South American)





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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: doug_E_fresh]
    #3237469 - 10/09/04 10:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

nice pics!! was there any heat coming from the fan?? if there was, this could of caused some of the active chemicals to die, im not sure of any other reason :rolleyes:


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: aussieone]
    #3237492 - 10/09/04 10:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Potency can vary considerably from grow to grow but I have had this problem before My bud got rid of a few 1/4's and got bad reviews well he wanted to try some so I gave him an 1/8th well he ended up splitting it with his wife and tried to paint the livingroom and ended up putting four coats of one coat coverage paint on the walls before realizing the patterns they we're seeing was the shrooms so long story short he confronted the guys told them to get fucked, anyway they apologized and asked for more. :wink: Fuckers trying to get shit for free! GEESH!!!


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: hyphae]
    #3237499 - 10/09/04 10:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i didnt know the potency varied that much with home grown? i know when they grow in the wild they can vary quite alot


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: aussieone]
    #3237551 - 10/09/04 11:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

No, there was no heat coming off them. Yeah, I hate that. It has happened to me before that the same night i "gave" some guys some, and "gave" some other guys some, one set of guys tripped balls, and the others called me back and tryed to bitch at me. I hate it sometimes.

Does anyone know what happeneed?


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: doug_E_fresh]
    #3237576 - 10/09/04 11:19 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It was probably lost due to oxidation. You said it wasn't completely dry, which means water and water hold ions. OH- probably did most of the damage. I assume it was left out in the room temp... It's just one of many possibilities.

Oh, btw, Psilocybin is the more stable stuff. Dried shrooms are supposed to have very low concentration of psilocin left if any.

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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin? [Re: doug_E_fresh]
    #3237591 - 10/09/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It isn't the shrooms, it's them.

And they bitch because they are bitches.

It sounds like they just want to get more shit for a cheaper price.


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin? [Re: MAGnum]
    #3237600 - 10/09/04 11:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Sam, how should they be properly dried then?


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: doug_E_fresh]
    #3237612 - 10/09/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Got to get them cracker dry.Need that snap.I have done this to .
Great tripping,2 weeks later,I eat 20 grams dry over a few hours.Felt next to nothing.I think the good shit gets fucked by water content.Multi spore gives you whatever.IMO clones need to be made.So get set up to make clones.Then test to see if good.If they are.Make clones.Then see if the multi spore is as good as the parent.Got to do some testing so you know personaly.GL


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: KaptKid]
    #3237625 - 10/09/04 11:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If your afraid of them going bad get some damp rid, silica kitty litter, or road salt. You can re charge them by baking in a tay around 400F.

About the potency loss, Try an 1/8 for yourself and see if they really are bad. I bet there perfect :wink:


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3237629 - 10/09/04 11:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

How long should the desiccant be baked for?


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: MoneyAddyct]
    #3237635 - 10/09/04 11:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I bet they are perfect too...thats why i am chomping an 1/8th tonight myself. Cheap ass hoes. Thanks guys, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy.


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: doug_E_fresh]
    #3237651 - 10/09/04 11:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

2-6 hours should do it depending on how thin you spread it out and how much your baking.


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: doug_E_fresh]
    #3237670 - 10/09/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

doug_E_fresh said:
I bet they are perfect too...thats why i am chomping an 1/8th tonight myself. Cheap ass hoes.




So let us know.Shrooms or cheap ass hoes??? :confused:


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: KaptKid]
    #3237704 - 10/10/04 12:12 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

shrooms or ass hoes? that's the twenty dollar question, isn't it? I don't think too much of taking money for shrooms, though I've paid nearly every shroom I ate. With that said, there is only one person you can truly trust, and that's you. So, if you feel you need an answer, eat some from same batch and the shroom gods will give you that foresight.

Happy trippin'.

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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: KaptKid]
    #3237716 - 10/10/04 12:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, btw, I'm sorry I'm slow with answers. I'm working on couple of colonization ideas. Kinda on and off the computer.

Happy trippin'.

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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: KaptKid]
    #3237717 - 10/10/04 12:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ive eaten shrooms before that i found under the seat of my car that had been there for months and had been there in the heat of summer, 120+. and those got me off so.... i got a dollar on cheap a holes. lol.
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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: zerozero]
    #3238193 - 10/10/04 03:45 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Shrooms in plastic baggies will reabsorb water quickly. You can notice it if improperly stored, they'll be cracker dry and then a wekk later have a bend to them. So your eating more water. Plus they weren't completly dry to begin with. I'd say the shrooms are fine, you just got some extra water in them knocking down the potency and them peoples just werent in the mindset to trip hard.


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Re: Shrooms loseing their psilocybin and psilocin?HELP [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3239388 - 10/10/04 04:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah dude. I started with 2.5 grams, then ate another .5, then went for a crazy walk down to 7-11. Then i got home and ate antoher 1 gram, then ate another .5. So 4.5, I was tripping balls.

I put a million dollars it was cheap ass hoes.


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