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OfflineAhHaHaHa
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smallest shrooms
    #3236151 - 10/09/04 12:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



Any ideas on making them larger?


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3236229 - 10/09/04 01:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thicker substrate layer most likely. What strain are they, and how deep is your substrate?


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: deff]
    #3236515 - 10/09/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Blue Meanie. 1 inch thick substrate. I think I am going to grow in bulk next time with straw. I keep getting the same results when I case only two cakes.


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3236965 - 10/09/04 06:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thats why, your using the worst substrate and a bit to thin IMO. 1 1/2 to 2 inches is best for grains which would get you bigger fruits. Straw is good too though, a bit tougher to work with. You can make substrate up to 6 inches thick that way. Add poo for an even better substrate.


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3237406 - 10/09/04 09:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You've got nice big caps compared to the stems, so you're doing everything right. Put 4 or 5 cakes in the same space and see the difference. Not only will you get much larger fruits, but more flushes too.

Also, have you tried dunking your casings? You'll get significantly bigger fruits on the next flush.


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: mockeylock]
    #3237482 - 10/09/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

How would I add poo to straw without getting contams? I have black angus cows in the front yard. Would theirs work or would it be to acidic?
No I havent dunked it. I'll do that next time. What is a better substrate than grain? I have a 60lb bag that I got for 12 dollars, but I am willing to try a better substrate.


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3237494 - 10/09/04 10:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Better than grain? Straw and dung. But contam risks are higher.

I don't see why Angus cow's dung wouldn't work. Why would it be more acidic? They feed on grass, right?


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: mockeylock]
    #3237710 - 10/10/04 12:14 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Contam risks go down with manure/sraw. Manure/straw is rich with decomposing bacteria. Once you get the fungus colonized on it theres not much for contams to get a hold of.


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3238184 - 10/10/04 03:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yep what grower said, properly pasturized poo and straw will resist contams very well.

I don't know if that stuff will work or not, sorry, I'd imagine so though.

Grain is an excellent substrate and you can get some big fruits from it. But if your talking schrooms that are over 3 grams each then you'd need to go poo. Grain:



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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3238646 - 10/10/04 09:29 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

AhHaHaHa said:


Any ideas on making them larger?





two words...
poo poo
:goodluck:


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: mockeylock]
    #3240423 - 10/10/04 10:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Cows have several stomachs which makes the poo more acidic and more digested. Where horses only have one stomach. How do you sterilize poo? Do you mix it while boiling the straw? How much do you use? I tried it once with a little piece and some straw but got a load of contams, lots of cobweb and green mold. However I looked on the bottom and the mycelia was branching wickedly. How long would I pasturize? I used straw once with P mexicana, but I put the casing layer on with the straw. I've read to cover the straw and wait for colonization before the casing is applied. Which is better?


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Re: smallest shrooms [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3240541 - 10/10/04 10:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Man, are you kidding? You've done enough research to case so you know you can find the info here. You just asked a bookload of questions. Check out some poo teks first.


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