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Bruising color without mycelium yet...
    #3233463 - 10/08/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I've done some searching through this forum and haven't found anything that sounded like what I'm seeing.
I just started some jars, about a week ago. Within a couple days, the inoculation sites had kinda darkened, akin to the color of bruising I have seen blueish with a little greenish (though without any mycelium that could be bruising) with no signs of mold or any of the soupiness of wet spot...although those spots look slightly wetter than the rest of the cake. Since then mycelium has been forming on the cakes. Any idea what this could be? Should I wait and see? Is wet spot only brown, or does it evidence itself with other colors? With wet spot, how long does it take to start looking soupy and nasty as in the pictures? Wet spot is a contam that warrants tossing a cake right...because I had seen a post talking about it not being toxic? I'm trying to put a pic up, but my camera seems inoperational. Any advice would be welcome. And if anyone has pics that they think might describe what I'm seeing, if they could link them...then I'll determine whether or not that's what I have. I've looked at the faqs about contams here and didn't really see anything that matched.
Thanks a ton.


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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: tlearyfan]
    #3233652 - 10/08/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

sounds very suspect, id isolate them from any other jars that do not show this and check them once a day. posting pics will help you get more responses and make for more accurate judgments.


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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: kilgore_trout]
    #3235850 - 10/09/04 08:44 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ugh spouds like you have aproblem


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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: fungigal]
    #3236426 - 10/09/04 03:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Update.
I've taken another look at the jars, and the color seems not as much blueish as it is just noticeably darker than the rest of the substrate...as if it was wetter... Dunno what it could be. Any ideas?
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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: tlearyfan]
    #3236452 - 10/09/04 03:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

If there is no mycelium and the substrait is blue, it is contam.

Especially if it grows.


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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: tlearyfan]
    #3239787 - 10/10/04 07:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, if it looks like its wetter, at the inoculation sites, it MIGHT be water. :smirk:


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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: Shmoppy McGillicuddy]
    #3247357 - 10/12/04 03:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hard to tell, but i think you should separate that jar - as previously advised - and wait some more time. You have nothing to loose right now, anything but white is not a good sign but have some patience and you'll surely know.
Btw, have you tried looking at the spot in the jar with a different kind of lightning or in another room ?

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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: MAIA]
    #3247741 - 10/12/04 05:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

So, when waiting, exactly what would one be waiting to see? What if on the jars where these "wet-looking" spots appeared, the mycelium is growing over those spots? What if the mycelium is looking more rizomorphic (sp...) around those spots?
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Re: Bruising color without mycelium yet... [Re: tlearyfan]
    #3254967 - 10/20/04 05:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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So, when waiting, exactly what would one be waiting to see?




If everything goes well, just white mycelium.

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What if on the jars where these "wet-looking" spots appeared, the mycelium is growing over those spots?




You have to be careful then. Smell the jars after birth, if you get any strange smell, toss the jar. It's also advisable to break the cakes and see if the mycelium has grown on the inside and not just above the contamination.

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What if the mycelium is looking more rizomorphic (sp...) around those spots?




Probably, this is a mycelium reaction to the contaminant. Sometimes, mycelium can show weird patterns when in contact with contamination.

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