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OfflineHambo
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too much humidity
    #3229663 - 10/07/04 06:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Ok the perlites working. Maybe a little too well. I'm pretty sure its near 100%, its misting up in a matter of minutes.. the sides, the seethrough pane i put in the top.

What are the effects of too much humidity with casings again? ATM where the pimply myc is poking through the casing its looking almost crystalline due to tiny water droplets condensing in it. What should I do? if anything?


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Re: too much humidity [Re: Hambo]
    #3229728 - 10/07/04 06:55 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I keep my humidity high. They say its bad for transpiration which helps the shrooms to grow bigger. I do ok..I just try not to mist so much. You have an air pump in there?

If its just perilite then you should be fine, it won't be to much and you would still need to mist.

Either way to get the humidity down, fan more. If you have an air pump you can either take out one wand (if you have two under the water, or even if only one under there) or get a smaller air pump.


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Re: too much humidity [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3229760 - 10/07/04 07:02 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Ok thats a releif, but Why would I still need to mist?

You should see it in there. I wiped the top off with a tissue and now 5 minutes later I can barely see through it again?. It is just perlite on its own.

I think I missed something..


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Re: too much humidity [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3229762 - 10/07/04 07:02 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

too much humidity wont hurt cakes either will it? im just letting it go as long as there aren't any drops on the cakes.

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Re: too much humidity [Re: Whippersnapper]
    #3229848 - 10/07/04 07:21 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure why you have such buildup like that but condensation is not proportonate to humidity. IMO humidity isn't enough to keep them moist anyway and a light spraying (one hand pump over the casing to let water fall on it 1-3 times a day whenever the substrate looks dry) is generally needed. I've never seen perilite make it so humid you wouldn't have to mist though..


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Re: too much humidity [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3230821 - 10/07/04 09:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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scatmanrav said:
I'm not sure why you have such buildup like that but condensation is not proportonate to humidity. IMO humidity isn't enough to keep them moist anyway and a light spraying (one hand pump over the casing to let water fall on it 1-3 times a day whenever the substrate looks dry) is generally needed. I've never seen perilite make it so humid you wouldn't have to mist though..


So true newbies are often confused to what condensation actually is, condensation is created by the difference in temperatures between the inside and outside. Perlite humidification rarely provides enough humidity by itself, it does stabilize the humidity very well keeping the RH from fluctuating. Anyway GL


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Re: too much humidity [Re: hyphae]
    #3230861 - 10/07/04 09:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

One more thing... After you fan(yeah, you'll need to fan a lot), you'll be back to ambient RH. Spraying will replenish humidity.

As far as too much humidity... it's not the humidity you should be worried about, it's the condensation. Condensation will breed nasties and cause a havoc if they are on your cakes or casing, thus the drip shield. If you consistently have a problem with condensation, try putting a blanket around your terrarium and adjust your drop shield to at a steeper angle.

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Re: too much humidity [Re: hyphae]
    #3230877 - 10/07/04 09:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm, does that suggest my 98% humidity is fine for pinning? I'm misting it currently (myc isn't too far through layer) but I expected to have to take a lot of perlite out once pinning begins to lower the humidity 5% atleast.

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Re: too much humidity [Re: Ayrios]
    #3231071 - 10/07/04 10:27 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Don't take perlite out ever, fan more or put some poly stuffed holes in the lid/sides. Pinsets are increased mainly with Light, temp drop, and plenty of fanning. GL


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Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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Re: too much humidity [Re: hyphae]
    #3232553 - 10/08/04 10:15 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

He actually shouldn't need to fan alot because of the air pump but I would just because of the condensation. Also you can try coating your chamber in vasoline or rainx which will make bad surfaces for condensation.

The blanket over the chamber seems like a good idea too. Might block light you have going but yeah..

And like Hyphae said, just fan more and throw some holes in there.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: too much humidity [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3233215 - 10/08/04 01:19 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't been following Hambos grow from other threads he also made no mention of an air pump and if indeed he has one then he shouldn't have a problem at all. condensation doesn't hurt anything as long as it's not dripping on your cakes/casings IME. Again GL guys


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Oyster Shell "Flour" $2 for 1lb. a hell of a deal :wink:
Not what is overlay but rather what overlay is
Gas Exchange vs. FAE

"We all have priorities. I used a closet once setup a nice little lab trouble was all the shit that was in there ended up in the bedroom that pissed off the GF then I ended up dumping her as she was getting in the way of my sterile culture technique! Ya I got priorities too!!!"

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Re: too much humidity [Re: hyphae]
    #3233319 - 10/08/04 01:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)




So true newbies are often confused to what condensation actually is, condensation is created by the difference in temperatures between the inside and outside. Perlite humidification rarely provides enough humidity by itself, it does stabilize the humidity very well keeping the RH from fluctuating. Anyway GL




Good to know!

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Re: too much humidity [Re: Land_Crab]
    #3233638 - 10/08/04 03:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Ahh! For some reason I thought he said he did but he said he didn't. Nevermind! Fan lots! 6-8 times a day is good :smile:


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: too much humidity [Re: hyphae]
    #7836620 - 01/05/08 05:43 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

hyphae said:
Quote:

scatmanrav said:
I'm not sure why you have such buildup like that but condensation is not proportonate to humidity. IMO humidity isn't enough to keep them moist anyway and a light spraying (one hand pump over the casing to let water fall on it 1-3 times a day whenever the substrate looks dry) is generally needed. I've never seen perilite make it so humid you wouldn't have to mist though..


So true newbies are often confused to what condensation actually is, condensation is created by the difference in temperatures between the inside and outside. Perlite humidification rarely provides enough humidity by itself, it does stabilize the humidity very well keeping the RH from fluctuating. Anyway GL



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Re: too much humidity [Re: Captain Cubensis]
    #7838189 - 01/06/08 03:53 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Why bump a 4 year old thread just to quote it?


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Re: too much humidity [Re: Hambo]
    #7839062 - 01/06/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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