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That's Bullshit
    #3228873 - 10/07/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1897106

Jamal Lewis (star football player) gets convicted for helping connect together two drug dealers four years ago.  Contrast that with  Clarence Aaron who was also a college football player setting up two different parties for a drug deal.  difference is that at the time of conviction Lewis is a high profile nfl player so he gets 4-months in prison. Aaron was not high profile due to still being in college at a non-Div I school and his sentence? 3 back-to-back-to-back life sentences without chance of parole :what:.

now i don't think anyone should be thrown in jail for drug crimes, but imagine if they gave this nfl star just the mandatory minimum?  this horrible unjust law would be thrust into the scrutiny of the public eye.  but oh no, they fucking manipulate the system and get him off on a sentence that does not compare at all to Aaron's or anyone else who gets a mandatory minimum.  god forbid these horrible unjust laws would be brought to attention.  This fucking pisses me off. :mad2:


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: Tao]
    #3228909 - 10/07/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

now i don't think anyone should be thrown in jail for drug crimes, but imagine if they gave this nfl star just the mandatory minimum? this horrible unjust law would be thrust into the scrutiny of the public eye. but oh no, they fucking manipulate the system and get him off on a sentence that does not compare at all to Aaron's or anyone else who gets a mandatory minimum. god forbid these horrible unjust laws would be brought to attention.

Wow, I hadn't really thought of it that way before! Celebrities usually only get a slap on the wrist, despite their trials usually being a sensation! I had always just chalked it up to good lawyers, but now that I think about it OF COURSE they wouldn't want to hand out the "usual sentence" in such a public fashion.


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: Tao]
    #3228951 - 10/07/04 06:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

wow


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: trendal]
    #3228980 - 10/07/04 06:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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trendal said:
now i don't think anyone should be thrown in jail for drug crimes, but imagine if they gave this nfl star just the mandatory minimum? this horrible unjust law would be thrust into the scrutiny of the public eye. but oh no, they fucking manipulate the system and get him off on a sentence that does not compare at all to Aaron's or anyone else who gets a mandatory minimum. god forbid these horrible unjust laws would be brought to attention.

Wow, I hadn't really thought of it that way before! Celebrities usually only get a slap on the wrist, despite their trials usually being a sensation! I had always just chalked it up to good lawyers, but now that I think about it OF COURSE they wouldn't want to hand out the "usual sentence" in such a public fashion.




But i thought one of the major reasons for mandatory minimums were scare tactics. I think i would just chalk it up to good lawyers, possible kick backs, and that they can be influencial.

And now i voice my opinion on manditory minimums for drugs offences: FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: d33p]
    #3228996 - 10/07/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well as far as the "drug war" goes, I don't think they really want to win it, so I don't think they intend mandatory minimums as a scare tactic. Probably to help out the booming prison labour industry (one of the fastest growing industries in the country). Longer you are in jail...the more money you can make for Company X with your slave labour. Maybe that's why we are seeing more and longer mandatory minimums for drug crimes these days?

I'd like to see some figures on how much of the economy is held up by the drug war...


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: trendal]
    #3229033 - 10/07/04 06:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Good point trendal. Damn it just pisses me off so much. i can't believe shit like this can be happening in a "civilized" society.


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: Tao]
    #3229045 - 10/07/04 06:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That is obscene!

Its fearful to think that the state can criminalize such a trivial thing, and set such a range of sentence.
I worry because I think that there are more and more things you can be criminalized for now. What really scares me is things like "3 Strikes and your out" if the state is gunning for you, its gonna get you.


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: d33p]
    #3229051 - 10/07/04 06:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

We only like to think of ourselves as "civilized" :wink:

I'm sure in a thousand years, if we humans are still around, the history books will talk of the veiled barbarism of our times!


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: trendal]
    #3229146 - 10/07/04 06:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

haven't the history books always spoken of the barbarism of those times...

it's not soo bad, really.

it implies that humanity is progressing.


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: afoaf]
    #3229161 - 10/07/04 06:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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haven't the history books always spoken of the barbarism of those times...

it's not soo bad, really.

it implies that humanity is progressing.




Yea, but why the hell cant be just be civilized already. I think though that we would reach "civilized" if there existed the pure libertarian form of government. I can only dream... sigh


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: d33p]
    #3229165 - 10/07/04 06:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

don't hold your breath...


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Re: That's Bullshit [Re: d33p]
    #3229649 - 10/07/04 08:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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d33p said:
Quote:

Zehid said:
haven't the history books always spoken of the barbarism of those times...

it's not soo bad, really.

it implies that humanity is progressing.




Yea, but why the hell cant be just be civilized already. I think though that we would reach "civilized" if there existed the pure libertarian form of government. I can only dream... sigh





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