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Questions about WBS TEK
    #3227527 - 10/07/04 02:43 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Okay so my friend's laama uses the BRF/Verm/Aqua in 1/2 pints and has heard a lot of good stuff about the Wild Birdseed Tek, or using Rye. SO, his questions are as follows:

1) Do the grain/seed TEKs usually colonize faster than the regular PF jars??

2) Of those of you who have switched, how much of a noticable difference have you seen?? Has the difference been in bulk, health or any other thing??

3) Are grains and seeds more prone to contams than brf/verm would be??

4) Is it advisable to inject liquid mycellium into said grain/seed jars or can the laama just use spore solution?? (he's heard you should be using rather large jars and wonders if colonization would be sloooooow and invite contams)

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My llama and me!

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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: Sammy]
    #3227562 - 10/07/04 02:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

1. Yes, 10-18 days with shaking
2. I use WBS as spawn and it works much better then PF. IF your making straight grain casings id advise using popcorn or rye.
3. Yes but sterile procedures should keep everything contam free.
4. Spores work fine but if you have some good liquid myc why not use it.


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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3227576 - 10/07/04 02:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I guess I'm still confused over the difference from spawn and using these grains as casings and stuff. Ahhhhh!! It's a lot to know, lol. Ive studied up a lot on pf jars and done them successfuly a few times.. would like to learn a lot more. I've read a few TEKs describing spawn but I'm still at a loss.

Please help this helpless dumbass!

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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: Sammy]
    #3227612 - 10/07/04 02:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Spawn is when your break up the colonized jars and mix into straw or staw/manure. The growth then continues onto the bulk substrate and you get much more shrooms in the end because theres more food for the shrooms since it has all the grain and now colonized straw/manure to eat.

Using them as casings is spimly dumping the colonized grain into a steralized tray, levelking and throwing a 1/4-1/2" casing layer of coir/verm over it.


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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3227641 - 10/07/04 03:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Is there a way to combine Spawn and Casing? Or does the straw/manure actually provide a contam protection layer?


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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: SerratedFrond]
    #3227757 - 10/07/04 03:26 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, you can straight case grains.

Check out my tek-it is newbie friendly.


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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: doc34]
    #3227961 - 10/07/04 03:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quick question on your TEK. Is the polyfil a must?? Is there another way to make contam free lids w/o it?? I've got everything else.

BTW: Thank you... thank you... THANK YOU !~~~!

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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: Sammy]
    #3227980 - 10/07/04 03:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Find a pillow that you have laying around the house and WALAAAA

you have polyfill.

But,You can use only tyvek also.

http://www.fungifun.org/pf/tyvek.htm


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Re: Questions about WBS TEK [Re: doc34]
    #3227995 - 10/07/04 03:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Oh and your quite welcome-anything to help out a fellow shroomer!


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