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oddiseus
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Perlite and No bubbler
#3224529 - 10/06/04 07:55 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was just wondering if not having a bubbler under the perlite is going to affect the way the walls condensate in the PMP. I dont want to have humidity and no moisture. Should this be a concern? I started my PMP about an several hours ago and I didnt get the moisture I have been seeing in most pictures. I misted the walls and that moisture stayed. So do I have to mist every once in a while??
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KaptKid
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: oddiseus]
#3224604 - 10/06/04 08:17 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, mist twice a day.
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ricelicker
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: KaptKid]
#3224934 - 10/06/04 09:34 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would highly recommend you get a pump, tubing and 2 bubble walls (total under $50 but very much worth it) and hook it up the way the tek says. Otherwise you'll have to do lots of fanning....GL tho
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: ricelicker]
#3224985 - 10/06/04 09:41 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bought a pump, tubing and 2 bubble stones for about $15. Though i'm still in the incubating stage of my first grow so I haven't been able to test it out, still very cheap to set up.
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ricelicker
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#3225004 - 10/06/04 09:43 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shroomsbrr where did you get your pump that cheap? Is a single output?
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oddiseus
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: ricelicker]
#3225919 - 10/07/04 12:49 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The tek I read about perlite use did not mention a bubbler can you possibly post a link to this info. Also how much Hydrogen peroxide should I put in. The tek I read said a good glug glug glug? One other question... I keep reading about dunking PF cakes and rolling them in vermiculite, what do I dunk them in, and how would you recommend doing this?
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Sam1912
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: oddiseus]
#3226260 - 10/07/04 02:55 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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dunk-sterilize some water in microwave, cool with cover, remove top vermiculite from jar and pour sterile water in. Or you can just make a whole bunch of sterile water and put the cakes in there. Then keep them in the fridge for 12-24 hours. It's suppose to replenish moisture to cake.
roll in vermiculite after dunking.
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derx
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: Sam1912]
#3226518 - 10/07/04 07:57 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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i ended up picking up a pump, 3 meters of tubing and 1 18" air wall for $22. The pump is very good, it is filtered intake and supports up to 3 devices, pumping 50 liters per hour. Just the local pet shop
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: derx]
#3226893 - 10/07/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The pump is for air exchange! The perlite is humidity! Your humidity will be fine without the pump but you'll need to fan IMO, at least 3-6 times a day.
Misting is needed with or without a pump and or perilite. Humidity needs to be up but casings need to be moist as well and just having a high humidity won't moisten cakes or casings.
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oddiseus
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: scatmanrav]
#3226925 - 10/07/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the good info. My cakes are 20% colonized and I want to work out the kinks as early on as possible. Should I worry about contams getting into my PMP through the air from air pump? I read something about using a box and coffee filters, is this necessary? I also read that you can just have the hose anywhere in the PMP and not necesarily under the substrate whats the difference?
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ZeroArmy27
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: scatmanrav]
#3226937 - 10/07/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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the bubbling does add a bit of humidity to the air though.
mist the walls once or twice a day. mist cakes as needed, usually once a day in my case.
use 10 parts water, 1 part peroxide for your perlite water. use something to separate your cakes from the perlite like a sterile jar lid or sterile tin foil.
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derx
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: ZeroArmy27]
#3227037 - 10/07/04 11:08 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dont like the idea of the air that is going into the pump is regular unfiltered air. that is why i bought a pump with a filter, to reduce air borne pathegons.
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ZeroArmy27
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Re: Perlite and No bubbler [Re: derx]
#3227160 - 10/07/04 11:32 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have a HEPA filter in my grow room. I'm not super worried about airbourne pathogens.
a nice spray of Oust! won't hurt either.
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