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Offlineiamthecheeseman
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Casing question
    #3224886 - 10/06/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, ive been reading the FAQ for about an hour to try to understand how i can case. Does this sound right?:

Take a rubbermade container and crumble fully colonized cakes into it until there is a 4" layer on the bottom of the rubbermade. Then, spread 1 inch of vermiculite over the crumbled layer. Cover with suran wrap and fan one or two times a day.

When the vermiculite layer (casing layer) begins to colonize, drop the temperature from 85 to 75 degrees F to induce pinning. Harvest when they mature

Does this sound right? How often should i mist the casing layer, taking into consideration that i dont want overlay? Is 4" of colonized substrate good enough or should i go with more? How do i know when to induce pinning? I want as big a' yeild as possable. I'm trying to grow a forest of shrooms'!

Thanks guys!


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Re: Casing question [Re: iamthecheeseman]
    #3225859 - 10/07/04 02:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

>Ok, ive been reading the FAQ for about an hour to try to understand how i can case. Does this sound right?:

>Take a rubbermade container and crumble fully colonized cakes into it until
>there is a 4" layer on the bottom of the rubbermade.
I would go with 2 inch for the start.


>Then, spread 1 inch of vermiculite over the crumbled layer.
and 1/2 inch of casing. The vermiculite has to be moist. i would suggest to use the 50/50+ casing instead.
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/7977

>Cover with Saran wrap and fan one or two times a day.
No fanning at this stage, you just leave it to itself at this stage.

>When the vermiculite layer (casing layer) begins to colonize, drop the
>temperature from 85 to 75 degrees F to induce pinning.
In addition to the temperature drop you uncover it and put it in a moist 95%+RH fruiting chamber and fan it 2-3 times a day.


>How often should i mist the casing layer, taking into consideration that i dont want overlay?

Read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23443/


>Is 4" of colonized substrate good enough or should i go with more?
See above.

>How do i know when to induce pinning?
Read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23444

Good luck!


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Re: Casing question [Re: Anno]
    #3226433 - 10/07/04 08:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

what's the difference between a 50/50 casing layer and just plain old verm.? I've been using verm. for my casing layers with much success, is 50/50 better?


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Re: Casing question [Re: mudvayne]
    #3226833 - 10/07/04 12:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Verm holds in water but peat moss/coco coir give the myc room to grow. Try it out! I prefer the 60/40 (or just coco coir and verm mixed at 50/50, though I'm trying out 2 parts coco coir and 1 part verm now as its highly recommended among the greats here.


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Re: Casing question [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3226896 - 10/07/04 12:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i agree. i used 60/40 coir/verm in my casings and also did 2 with straight verm, the verm took longer to colonize the casing layer (and sadly one got contamed). some don't like using coir because they say the myc. will eat the coir, but that doesn't bother me, seeing as it's just more food.

coir dries out quickly, so you need to LIGHTLY mist once a day. i only do one spray a day by misting and allowing that to settle on the casings. don't get close and spray, you'll do damage.


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Re: Casing question [Re: Anno]
    #3227940 - 10/07/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

>When the vermiculite layer (casing layer) begins to colonize, drop the
>temperature from 85 to 75 degrees F to induce pinning.
"In addition to the temperature drop you uncover it and put it in a moist 95%+RH fruiting chamber and fan it 2-3 times a day."
Fruiting chamber ALSO means introduction to 12-16hrs. of light to aid in the pinning stage, after pins are set light duration can be decreased to anywhere from 4-12hrs. IMO :wink:


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