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Offlinejihad
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this... is the way
    #3221463 - 10/06/04 03:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you take something simple, like a relationship. what is a relationship to you? for me it's feeling. if there is no feeling then u have nothing. feeling is something that can derive us to do anything, anything imaginable. it the sole GREATEST gift given to us. with feeling comes choice, u have 2 choices yes or no (right or wrong). with those 2 choices everything opens up to you, u have the whole world at your finger tips. why would u abuse such a great gift? now this train of thought can be taken in to a billion different directions but im going to chose sex. why? cause again sex is a feeling that should not only be felt physically; but mentally as well. it should be a feeling so dear to you that only you and ONE other should feel. it is the absolute epitome of feeling. sex is feeling, feeling is sex, therefore sex should not be taken for granted. how can you abuse something so wonderful (feeling) that has been given to us to go and just have sex with multiple people where there is NO feeling. think about this - you love someone, someone who u have a feeling for, u actually feel something towards them; isn't it only THEN that you should allow yourself to take part in having sex? when you actually have a FEELING for them. not just some random person you met at a party to have a good 20 minutes with - where there is absolutely no feeling. there is physical pleasure on the outside, but what about on the inside? it is empty, there is no feeling. it is just as if we spit on our gift and gave it back to whoever gave it to us. if god took away our ability to feel, who would we be? we would be nothing, just robots that do whatever the f.uck they want. they feel nothing; they don?t have sense. feeling is the bare necessity of everything. without that there would be no words such as love, lust, pleasure, remorse, jealousy, envy, greed, hate etc. these are all the things that make us who we are, human.


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Re: this... is the way [Re: jihad]
    #3221469 - 10/06/04 03:16 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i agree, and disagree

why can you not love many people?


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Re: this... is the way [Re: BleaK]
    #3221491 - 10/06/04 03:25 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

BleaK said:
i agree, and disagree

why can you not love many people?




in the sense that i was talking about would be true love. not just romantic love but uncondional love.


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Re: this... is the way [Re: jihad]
    #3221526 - 10/06/04 03:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

unconditional would seem even more all encompassing.
to love unconditionally, is to love everything unconditionally.


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Re: this... is the way [Re: jihad]
    #3222026 - 10/06/04 11:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

unconditional love is beautifull.

it is possble to love many many people with the love you describe.

given your description i have loved four people with this sex love. and countless others with a love that is indistiguishable from sex love (at your description) without the sex.

sex is beautiful. monogomy is a great teacher.

but what about when you AND your partner part ways, mutually.

i still keep the love. and sooner or later someone else comes along and wants to share themselves with me. then the great teacher, monogomy comes in again!

all i am saying is that true love can exist forever, with as many people as you care to open your heart to.

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Re: this... is the way [Re: jihad]
    #3222063 - 10/06/04 11:59 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

For some physical pleasure I guess. You just can't let it get out of control. I myself aren't really into the whole loveless sex thing. Maybe I would be if I had more self-esteem, but I doubt it. It seems kinda shallow.

I guess also maybe for some reassurance of acceptance. I'll kiss a girl just cause I'm feeling lonely or something (I'm trying to change that), and it makes me feel better for a bit. Not really. I don't really take it as far as sex, although I'm not sure if it's because I'm too shy to try, or because that kinda thing isn't something I'm into).

But I know I'd take meaningful relationship and sex over one-night stands any day.

Good post btw :-)


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Re: this... is the way [Re: jihad]
    #3222185 - 10/06/04 12:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

pleasure is a sensation... sensations create desires...

if you have a spiritual desire, and cant fulfill it, you very well may try to garnish some of that from physical pleasure..

i say, keep on kissing until you find a kiss that makes you want to die for another one. :wink:

learn to look at other peoples suffering, develop your empathy skill, and soon you will be falling in love by accident, which is the only way in my book :smile:

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Re: this... is the way [Re: Todcasil]
    #3222273 - 10/06/04 01:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i have an interesting situation in this respect

On the one hand, i have no ethical problem with loveless, meaningless sex with multiple partners. I even desire it on one level

and yet whenever i find myself in a situation where it is available, i simply am not into it. I simply find myself turned off by the basic ugliness of the 'whore' mentality (both in the girl and myself)

i just cant seem to get it up unless i have a real attraction to the girl, beyond just basic physical attraction. On the one hand that pisses me off, on the other its probably a good thing


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Re: this... is the way [Re: Moonshoe]
    #4878534 - 11/01/05 06:47 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

It's the classic "having sex" versus "making love" debate.

While i agree that MAKING LOVE with a partner you care about should be felt emotionally as well as physically, i would not say that having SEX purely for physical gratification is like "spitting on our gift and giving it back", as it is a gift which all of us has the right to use however we see fit.

What about those who make a living from having sex (porn stars), and are very happy in doing so? Surely using the gift of sex to make their lives better can only be a good thing?

At the end of the day though, the decision is down to those involved and nobody else. Who has the right to tell two people that what they are doing is wrong if it is what they both want and they are not harming anyone else? IMHO, it would be more of a sin to try and impose your own moral standard upon others than it would be to have sex without significant emotional exchange for whatever purpose.


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Re: this... is the way [Re: Dfekt]
    #4878549 - 11/01/05 07:29 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

u have 2 choices yes or no (right or wrong)




and this is where i stopped reading.  :thumbup:


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Re: this... is the way [Re: jihad]
    #4878617 - 11/01/05 08:38 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Nothing wrong with a good 20 minutes with that stranger. Why the black and white view? IMO we're not made that way. There are many levels of love and sex. Why not experience them all? One does not negate the other.

It's our fear that we need to justify when we say one is good and one is not.


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