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InvisibleGabbaDjS
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Foreigners As President.
    #3221148 - 10/05/04 11:33 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Laws are being debated right now and in the future any naturalized citizen of 20 years in the US can be eligable for presidentcy.

Is this a good thing?


Let me start the debate now by saying NO...

Presidents of the US should citizens from birth.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #3221176 - 10/05/04 11:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Ummm..... i'm still undecided upon this.

I'm not sure how much I'd like a foreigner in charge of our Armed forces, but then again, I KNOW i'm not happy with Bush in charge of our armed forces.

Ehhhh......

Initially, I say no, but I get a yessy aftertaste.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #3221197 - 10/05/04 11:46 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I don't like the idea.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #3221202 - 10/05/04 11:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I dont think its a good idea at all...i doubt it will pass

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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: Skikid16]
    #3221211 - 10/05/04 11:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Skikid16 said:
Ummm..... i'm still undecided upon this.

I'm not sure how much I'd like a foreigner in charge of our Armed forces, but then again, I KNOW i'm not happy with Bush in charge of our armed forces.

Ehhhh......

Initially, I say no, but I get a yessy aftertaste.



^^^pretty much sums up my feelings on it


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #3221215 - 10/05/04 11:49 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

How much worse can we get than people who are born into money or people who marry into money? At least immigrants who have made it in this country generally know the value of hard work - as opposed to the two clowns we have currently squabbling over the reigns of power.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: Evolving]
    #3221220 - 10/05/04 11:50 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Arnold Swarzenegger would suck as president. He seems like a mad man.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: 1stimer]
    #3221228 - 10/05/04 11:52 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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1stimer said:
Arnold Swarzenegger would suck as president. He seems like a mad man.



He's a shitty governor, but no worse than Gray Davis. My parents are staunch Democrats and even they hated Davis.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: 1stimer]
    #3221242 - 10/05/04 11:53 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Actually, arnold doesn't seem all that bad, fiscally conservative, socially liberal .

I don't see too many problems, but again, I say, I'm not sure how I would like a foreigner in charge of our armed forces.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #3221273 - 10/05/04 11:58 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

GabbaDj said:
Laws are being debated right now and in the future any naturalized citizen of 20 years in the US can be eligable for presidentcy.



That law will never pass.

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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: GabbaDj]
    #3221288 - 10/06/04 12:00 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Personally, I just hope that if we have an immigrant president that he doesn't use that same Niel Diamond song in his campaign that Michael Dukakis used.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: 1stimer]
    #3221294 - 10/06/04 12:02 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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1stimer said:
Arnold Swarzenegger would suck as president.  He seems like a mad man.




:yesnod:

God help us if Ah-nold ever became president. :eek:

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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3221302 - 10/06/04 12:02 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

That would be retarded. I can only hope the majority of the American people are not that dense.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: allmakescombined]
    #3221311 - 10/06/04 12:04 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Ahnold would be a much better president than Bush. But that's not really saying much.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: silversoul7]
    #3221315 - 10/06/04 12:05 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone would be better than Bush. Even John Kerry.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: allmakescombined]
    #3221321 - 10/06/04 12:07 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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allmakescombined said:
Anyone would be better than Bush. Even John Kerry.



That I'm not so sure about. He may be slightly better, but not a whole lot.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: allmakescombined]
    #3221323 - 10/06/04 12:07 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know if he could get elected, but I'm sad to say that I wouldn't be too surprised if he got a sizable proportion of the votes, simply because he's "Ah-nold"...  :nonono:

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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: allmakescombined]
    #3221325 - 10/06/04 12:07 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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allmakescombined said:
Anyone would be better than Bush. Even John Kerry.


:lol:

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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3221329 - 10/06/04 12:09 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

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ToiletDuk said:
I don't know if he could get elected, but I'm sad to say that I wouldn't be too surprised if he got a sizable proportion of the votes, simply because he's "Ah-nold"...  :nonono:



Better than our current president getting elected because he has the same name as his dad.


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Re: Foreigners As President. [Re: silversoul7]
    #3221361 - 10/06/04 12:19 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

True, but by very little....

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