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OfflineDocPsilocybin
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Liberty Cap Dosage?
    #3219383 - 10/05/04 07:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well, just recently I picked some liberty caps and now I need to just see what you guys think of this quote:

Psilocybe semilanceata
(Liberty Caps)

CAP : Orange to yellow, tan when dry, conic to flat wavy with age
GILLS : Smokey redish brown
STEM : White, hollow, bluing when bruised
HABITAT : Bark mulch, lawns, and wooded areas
SEASON : October through December
DOSAGE : 1 large shroom, 1/5 oz. wet, 1/4 gram dry



Does that dosage seem a bit low? I'd rather go low than high. But should I really take a quarter gram of dried lib caps?


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3219462 - 10/05/04 08:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah thats a bit low... Try a gram dry first and move up.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3219466 - 10/05/04 08:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks bro!


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3220263 - 10/05/04 10:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The description given is DEFINATLEY NOT that of Liberty Caps (P. Semilanceata).

That sounds more like P. Cyanesens.

Have you got Liberty Caps- or something else.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3223239 - 10/06/04 05:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I think that's just to show you the Psilocybe content per shroom, not necessarily that that should be the dose in which you should take.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3223258 - 10/06/04 05:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thats not a description for liberty caps, thats a description for Psilocybe cyanescens. I don't know the dose for libs but I know it's definately higher than that of cyans.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Gumby]
    #3223394 - 10/06/04 05:41 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

theyre still pretty potent tho so dont underestimate them, id go with 10 grams fresh or 1 gram dry to start with

first time i tried libs i done 14 grams fresh and had a high level 4 trip which i wasnt expecting at all.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3223462 - 10/06/04 05:58 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

All I been taking recently is liberty caps since my hosue is surrounded by them lol...

I dont have a decent weighing scales so i go bout number of rather than grams...

Ive had a really intense trip on a brew of 45 but just a medium strong trip on about 100

it all depends on you i think...

Also the description you gave definitly doesnt sound like liberty caps, what country you at?


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Gumby]
    #3223566 - 10/06/04 06:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

about 25-40 lib's is a resonable amount to take for your 1st trip wont be massively intense, But will be enough to give you a suitable idea of what its all about. also as for "movingtargets" comment about varying strength he is spot on. occasionally you may have a particularly strong trip from only a small amount of fresh liberty caps so beware. Also docpsilocybin i think you are way out with your dosages of lib caps and if the pic under your name is what you think are libs then i can catagorically say that they are not and the discription you gave of them is incorrect, go picking with someone who knows there stuff.. and untill such time as you can cofidently i.d a shroom dont even think of eating it!!!


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3224014 - 10/06/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Unfortunately, Erowid, who posted the above dosage and id came from my safe-pik mushroom guide. They posted the text for several of the liberty caps on the cyans and vice- versa.

one fresh ounce of liberty caps or twenty to forty fresh specimens or 1/3 fresh ounce. or one dried gram to two dried grams for those with experience.

mj

2 to 4 doses in a fresh ounce./

The description and dosage you posted for above are for P. cyanescens. It should not have been linked to the liberty cap photo.

mj

I edited and corrected the one dried ounce to read one fresh ounce.

Thanks to Joshua for the noticing of my error in tying.

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3224137 - 10/06/04 08:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

A good dosage for P cyanascens a quarter gram dry? Are they really that potent?


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Heffy]
    #3224261 - 10/06/04 08:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

YEs some baby shrooms have been know to get for to six or more people off on a dried gram. But a dried gram of cyans are potent. Especially if they are littloe mushrooms.

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3224301 - 10/06/04 09:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

MJ... where do you get these numbers? If I had a dried ounce of libs (we'll pretend these are eaten in a dream state where laws do not matter) would you eat them?

I'd say a dose is close to an eighth ounce on average. That's a medium trip for me, I'd imagine that most would be fine with half of that.

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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Joshua]
    #3224539 - 10/06/04 09:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The numbers of Libs I hear people eat doesnt really add up to the trips I personally experienced off only about 3-4g's, which is certainly way less than 100 liberty caps, yet my trip was out of this world, and that's not the only time i've tripped my balls off on that amount of liberty caps.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Sin Bad]
    #3225118 - 10/07/04 12:01 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)




Well, these are the ones that I picked. Liberty caps I'd imagine.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: CanonPants]
    #3225158 - 10/07/04 12:08 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i can tell you that i personally at 3 good sized libs (approx 1/2 gram) the other night and had a level 2 trip.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: dorsethunter]
    #3225164 - 10/07/04 12:09 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

dorsethunter said:
about 25-40 lib's is a resonable amount to take for your 1st trip wont be massively intense, But will be enough to give you a suitable idea of what its all about. also as for "movingtargets" comment about varying strength he is spot on. occasionally you may have a particularly strong trip from only a small amount of fresh liberty caps so beware. Also docpsilocybin i think you are way out with your dosages of lib caps and if the pic under your name is what you think are libs then i can catagorically say that they are not and the discription you gave of them is incorrect, go picking with someone who knows there stuff.. and untill such time as you can cofidently i.d a shroom dont even think of eating it!!!




Heh, the picture under my name is a handful of B+ from a casing I grew. I'm pretty confident I can ID liberty caps.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3225205 - 10/07/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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mjshroomer said:
Unfortunately, Erowid, who u posted the above dosage and id came form mty safepik mushroom guide. They posted the text for several of the liberty caps ont he cyans and vice versa/

one dried ounce of liberty caps or twnety to forty fresh specimens or 1/3 fresh ounce.

mj

2 to 4 doses in a fresh ounce./

That is the description and dosage you posted for P. cyanescens. It should not have been linked to the liberty cap photo.

mj





I think you're bang on MJ. That description I posted was from the Safe-Pik Mushroom guide. I must not have been paying attention.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: DocPsilocybin]
    #3225618 - 10/07/04 01:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The shrooms in the new pics are definatley liberty Caps. (p. semilanceata).

Deliruim - you had a level 2 trip off 3 liberty caps?!?!?!?! either you must be super super sensitive or those were the biggest, most potent 3 liberty caps in history.

In my exeperience you can feel the effects in a dose as low as 10 single shrooms, but we're talking threshold effects. Getting a level 2 trip off 3 liberty caps... well, that's a first.

I would advise you (Docpsy) try 20 liberty caps on your first dose - and then work from there.


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Re: Liberty Cap Dosage? [Re: Sin Bad]
    #3225727 - 10/07/04 01:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks SinBad! I think I'll just weigh out a gram and eat that. Eating random numbers of shrooms never really appealed to me.


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