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 ekomstop
 
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 Kerry's pen 
#3215838 - 10/04/04 08:51 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does anybody else find just a wee bit pathetic how Kerry pulling something out of his pocket (which turned out to be a black pen) during the debates can cause so much controversey among people? This is news?
What about Kerry's statement on how we need some kind of a global test for global government?
Or How Bush looked like he was all doped up and bombed out of his gourd?
Or how the two candidates are cousins, and how their both for the phony war, or how their both members of the same secret society, or how the debates are completely staged out of the questions and answers?
No, their talking about a pen.
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 Re: Kerry's pen [Re: ekomstop]
#3215849 - 10/04/04 08:54 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dictators tend to kill their nation's intellectuals. The Right wing has come a long way. Be thankful they're nit picking at pens being pulled out of pockets. 
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: ekomstop]
#3216110 - 10/04/04 09:54 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Think kerry mispoke on the global test thing. I think he just ment it needs to meet certain circumstances like a country that will actually attack us. I think it was just a slip on words.
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: Worf]
#3216145 - 10/04/04 10:03 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alot of conservatives are now admitting that Bush isn't a good debated, but still a strong leader. I don't know what to think of comments like that. Maybe conservatives are simply of lower intelligence.
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Using that logic, you'd vote for hitler, right? A great orator, but not very many "good points"? Gooo liberal logic!
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: ekomstop]
#3216271 - 10/04/04 10:27 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Or how the two candidates are cousins
9th cousins, twice removed, whatever that means.
http://www.familyforest.com/Kerry_Bush_Cousins.html
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, and how their both for the phony war
ill advised, maybe, but very real
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, or how their both members of the same secret society
they have very similar, very elite backgrounds.
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, or how the debates are completely staged out of the questions and answers?
The debates had very clear groundrules, and no surprise questions - but what do you mean, completely staged? Do you have evidence?
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Worf
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Funny how being a good public speaker is synonymous with being a great leader.
Edited by outputrotation (10/04/04 10:43 PM)
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: Worf]
#3216306 - 10/04/04 10:34 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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politics are all about people skills, not so much intelligence.
would you trust NASA scientists to run the country?
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: Psilygirl]
#3216341 - 10/04/04 10:42 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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actually a nasa scientist would probably make much better more rational descions than bush has. At least a nasa scientist wouldn't think he was "doing gods will" or whatever.
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: Psilygirl]
#3216354 - 10/04/04 10:44 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psily, synonymous means the same.
I don't know if you were agreeing with me or not...
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Psilygirl
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good point... but alot of people buy into that "God's will" crap so who knows...
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: Psilygirl]
#3216446 - 10/04/04 11:04 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm not sure they really 'buy into' it..
it's probably much easier for them to just cook something up out of nothing and run with it
fortunately for them alot of people will just accept it and go along with whatever they say no matter how nutty it sounds
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: retread]
#3218306 - 10/05/04 01:11 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually, it was a Conservative using that logic on CNN.
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If NASA ran the country I dont think they would make intelligent decisions. They would just take the Al Queda and use them in new experiemnts when sending people to space. Bush being bad in debates doesnt mean a thing. Kerry being good in debates doesnt mean a thing. It comes down to what their views are not how they argue them. You can say that civil rights is a good thing but if you cant argue it well does it make it a bad thing? Not at all, it just means you are not the best at debating. Having strong views that you stand by is what makes a leader strong. Ultimately it comes down to what the candidate thinks. So before you go and accuse either one of being a better candidate based on the debates look at their views. Kerry has almost the exact same views on how to correct Iraq as Bush. The only difference is Bush is actively taking those steps as we speak. Go back and watch the first debate you will be suprised how many similarities there are between what Kerry wants and what Bush is doing.
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Re: Kerry's pen [Re: ekomstop]
#3219568 - 10/05/04 06:27 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe Jimmy Carter was a "nucular" physicist. He was also a fucking gold plated disaster as president and is continuing his legacy by being a gold plated disaster as ex-president.
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Carter was a bad president.
But he's considered by almost everyone, liberal and conservative, to be one of the best ex-presidents.
What about him seems like a disaster? Habitat for humanity? Setting up free elections? Nobel Peace Prize?
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