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FAQ 40.Why are trips hard to describe?
    #3211843 - 10/04/04 12:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #3211869 - 10/04/04 12:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The experience transcends all mortal language...


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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #3212010 - 10/04/04 01:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Because Mr Webster hasn't tripped yet and we don't have words for them? j/k

I think trips are hard to describe we find words and phrases that describe are so overused for commercialization of their products that we no longer have means to compare these words. With words now describing something plain, it becomes impossible to describe them directly. Look at the word fantastic. It's NBA FAN-tastic or Fantasia fantastic or even worse, I got an "A" in Algebra fantastic. Nothing fantasy like in that anymore. Over the years, words we need were used to dramatize something or someone.

In pursuit to overcome this short coming, we tend to make up words or just use the words "really really". Explaining a trip to another tripper is almost as easy a simple nod. Any words you choose to use, it describes what you see and feel without dramatization, mostly because what you can imagine is what you see or feel. Trying to explain a trip to a non tripper requires comparison to "imagine your wildest...", "most intense...", "most vibrant...", etc... Word most becomes repetitive but fitting. Imagination with sober eyes can only see, sober ears hear, sober tongue taste. But in a trip, eyes, ears, and tongue see, feel, hear and taste all at the same time, bringing all the an imagination based on any senses to expand into a full experience.

The words that describe each aspect such as an emotion, taste, sound or any combination of senses cannont describe the experience. Fragmented explaination results from jumping around the senses. An experience can only be understood by those who shared that experience.

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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #3212329 - 10/04/04 02:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

uhm, basically because we all are on the rear end of out very own looking glas?

see, we all resorb our surrounding world different, for example the shroomery
looks for me like for noone of u, concerning colors and style bla ..

u get the idea right? even the same blue isnt the same in ur eyes and so on..

basically, every shroom trip resembles each other in terms of patterns
popping out of nowhere, colors and distorsions, morphings - thats for the
optical part.

then there aret the emotions, also unique per person since we simply
are so different in EVERY mean possible.

lets see synesthesia for example, tasting sound, feeling color and alike.
i know loads of ppl who have never ever experienced these sort of things
and others who encountert them each trip they are willingly to go for.

but once its all over, it was all so much, so astonishing, so mind blending
that u simply are pervertedly limited in ur description skills since so
many things are there 'for the moment' and the 'moment'- filled with joy,
admire and insight is simply to overwhelming to be put in words,
if it wasnt like that, we wouldnt need mush to experience it!

in my eyes it is way easier to talk about a dream,
than about a trip since u can fully concentrate on a dream but when tripping
its simply so munch at the same time, overwhelming, so that we would
be able to recall remarkable events like, uh, a hand growing out of a
wall or alike, but even if we were able to talk about that hand later on,
we wouldnt even come close to its incredible beauty and everything related
to it experienced while under influence of the mush.

i believe that, after coming down, the 'reality filter' snaps back on
us, rendering each and everyone of us partially unable to recall all
EVEN THOUGH IT MAY STILL BE SOMEWHERE IN OUR HEAD!!!

well, i guess ill get myself another coffee, all this thinking is simply
too much at 8:42 am :wink:

hope it makes some sense.

peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: MOTH]
    #3212583 - 10/04/04 04:21 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
The experience transcends all mortal language...



As do all experiences, when it comes down to it. However, tripping is so far beyond words that it's downright impossible to describe it, especially considering that the English language developed in a culture with no psychedelic use. Perhaps the Mayan or Aztec language would have more descriptive words for describing the experience.


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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #3212589 - 10/04/04 04:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

What? Groovy doesn't work well enough for you?


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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #3212777 - 10/04/04 07:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Cervantes said:
What? Groovy doesn't work well enough for you?




made me fall of my chair laughing,
cerv u da man :laugh:

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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3212788 - 10/04/04 07:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
Quote:

EllemyshShade said:
The experience transcends all mortal language...



As do all experiences, when it comes down to it.




I agree...reminds me on Waking Life where the two women talk about how so much of life is intangible and impossible to express.


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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #3216646 - 10/05/04 01:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A new world (tripping) requires a whole different level of vocabulary that just doesn't exist.

I shall now endeavor to create new words to explain tripping.

expashrink - v

1. to expand and shrink at the same time
ex: the walls around me expashrinked

... i'll leave the rest to you guys


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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #3216690 - 10/05/04 01:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

that sounds like a word out of harry potter movie. :wink:


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Re: FAQ 34.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3220641 - 10/05/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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EllemyshShade said:
The experience transcends all mortal language...



the English language developed in a culture with no psychedelic use. Perhaps the Mayan or Aztec language would have more descriptive words for describing the experience.




this is the reason with which i agree most. language shapes our world, nothing can really exist or be understood in society unless in has a word for it. (this all goes back to some of terrence mckenna's ideas) English as a language did not develop with psychedelics and therefore cannot describe them, it did develop with alcohol. so utter the word "drunk" and everyone will know what u mean, even if they had never been drunk before they will still have a relatively good idea. Take the word "tripping", and tell it to someone who has never tripped before and they have no clue what it could be about. even between fellow experimenters describing ones own experiences is often frustrating because there are simply no words that exist in English that could really support the meaning. words like, "crazy" "groovy" ect just don't cut it. its all about the language, though personal experience definitely has a major role as well. think about this, the Inuits have thousands of different words for snow.


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Re: FAQ 40.Why are trips hard to describe? [Re: Rose]
    #4573503 - 08/24/05 01:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

40. Why are trips so hard to talk about after they are over?

Here's the answer so far... discuss.

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The trip experience transcends all mortal language... as do all experiences, when it comes down to it. However, tripping is so far beyond words that it's downright impossible to describe it, especially considering that the English language developed in a culture with no psychedelic use. Perhaps the Mayan or Aztec language would have more descriptive words for describing the experience.

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It is often easier to communicate among fellow trippers, during a trip, than it is to communicate while sober. It is funny how something that makes communication easier is so hard to explain.




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