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Did I trip?? Please help!
    #3210446 - 10/03/04 04:23 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Recently I acquired some double OO size capsules containing (supposedly) dehydrated psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, however I don't know the source that I got it from very well. I had never shroomed before. Last night I ingested some of the pills.

I had not eaten anything in more than four hours, and at 5:00 PM I took two of the pills. I started watching TV and talking with my friends (I was the only one who took any of the pills). By 7:00 PM, I still didn't feel anything so I downed another pill. Another hour later, at about 8:00 PM I STILL didn't feel anything nor was I seeing anything so I decided to smoke a bowl.

I am fairly sensitive to weed, and after three or four good hits I was really high. Soon I started seeing strange two dimensional intricate patterns if I closed my eyes, but this is not unusual for me after smoking bud. After a while I could see the patterns with my eyes open, although they were very faint. It became very hard to concentrate on anything, although this of course is not unusual from bud either.

I got tired of sitting inside so I went outside to look around. The landscape was beautiful, but I was definitely not seeing anything that was not there. Nothing was swirling, no colors were dripping, no hallucinations other than "faded" patterns that I saw when I closed my eyes or looked at something that was dark. The patterns were constantly changing but were always two dimensional and intricate. The darker it was, the more vividly I could see them.

The whole time I was wondering.. is this all shrooms are? Or did I get ripped off? From all the trip reports and everything I had read about shrooms I should have definitely been experiencing more than I was. I was walking around the backyard and I must have forgotten where I was at least three times back there. I would take a few steps, stop, look around, and forget where I was. Then suddenly I would remember that I was at my friend's house. This happened many times this night.

Other than the patterns, the only "hallucination," if you want to call it that, that I experienced was when I was sitting in the front yard and I saw this little thing on the concrete that looked like a lizard. I knew it wasn't a lizard, but I couldn't tell what it really was. I just stared at it, trying to figure out what it was, thinking it looked a lot like a lizard or maybe a tiger. Finally when I walked up to it, I realized it was just a piece of wood. Another slightly unusual thing is that I kept looking at these trees in the front yard and somehow they seemed very old to me, like they had seen a lot. I looked up at the branches and they seemed very complicated and intricate and somehow I had more respect for trees than I have had in the past. Again this could be "shrooms," or it could be weed, placebo or both.

Finally I got really tired and my friends and I went to bed. Even though I felt really tired I couldn't sleep and I ended up staying up all night long (lying in bed for like 5+ hours with no sleep sucked). All in all it was pretty disappointing, and I am still not sure whether I experienced a weak shroom trip or a really strong weed trip.

Like I said.. I have seen visuals on just weed alone but this time they were more vivid. I guess it's weird that I couldn't fall asleep though because usually weed makes me tired. I really don't know whether I tripped or not because I've never taken shrooms before then and no one else took the pills I did. Any comments.. thoughts??? I would really like to know if I tripped, or if it was just weed/placebo!!

By the way how much do you think a double OO capsule filled with dehydrated shrooms would weigh? Are they like 1 gram each or what?

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210464 - 10/03/04 04:32 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Usually the 00's have around a half a gram per pill in them, but since you didn't make them yourself it could be alot less than that, that is, if they weren't bunk. The inability to sleep could mean you have a very very low level trip or it could be that you were stoned and upset about not tripping which caused your sleeplessness.

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210475 - 10/03/04 04:38 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I was definitely upset about not tripping.. I'm sure that played a part of it. I think it is suspect that I didn't see ANY visuals until after I smoked weed, more than 3 hours after ingesting the first pills. BTW just looking at the pills, they are completely full, no empty space in them... the powder inside is grayish/purple with dark specks here and there.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210480 - 10/03/04 04:39 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

sometimes people eat mushrooms in low doses and they don't see visuals, but weed really brings out mushroom visuals.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210486 - 10/03/04 04:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Things would've still have felt off-base line when breaking the threshold within couple of hours(I think additional 30 min for caps) before any visuals set in. Sounds bunk to me.

I think we put ourselves in grave danger when we start popping pills from strangers. We should get to know the sources first. Have a party with them. Something to think about.

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210487 - 10/03/04 04:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

how many of those do you have? I would take 7, which if they had .5 grams in each it would be 3.5. That's a good dose.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210528 - 10/03/04 04:59 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I would agree that you most likely only injested a very small amount of mushrooms. It's possible weed brought out mild visuals, however from what you describe it as, it sounds like it could also be the placebo effect, or even just weed visuals. The pills probably were the real deal, but did not contain nearly enough of the good stuff to have much effect.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: gdman]
    #3210561 - 10/03/04 05:08 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I only have 3 left, I think I will take them all one morning... not smoke any weed, and see what happens. Probably nothing.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210572 - 10/03/04 05:12 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

You may consider taking an MAOI (such as syrian rue) prior to ingestion, as that can increase the effects considerably. However make sure to check interactions with food and medications first (see erowid) as they can be potentially dangerous.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210647 - 10/03/04 05:36 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like you had a very very low threshold trip. The way you described your new respect for trees and the landscape being more beautiful than normal - a new connection to nature is a pretty common psychadelic effect, but like everyone else said, it could have just been the weed. I would find a more reliable source and ingest a fair amount...when you trip good you will know it!

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3210678 - 10/03/04 05:47 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I think it'd be better if you toss those pills and get more some shrooms from reliable source, or at least things that look like shrooms. A questionable trip can leave a very negative impression on you for a long time. shrooming is very pleasant experience most of the time, and it might be better if you just wait until you got the good stuff.

If you really want to try it, I'd go with dblaney18's advice and eat some MAOI before hand. I always end up puking my brains out if I use harmala. So, read up and get edumacated. And happy tripping.

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Sam1912]
    #3210758 - 10/03/04 06:18 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Or even smoke it, I find smoking harmala is much easier for me and my stomach than eating it


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3211018 - 10/03/04 07:44 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

what you should do, is take the powder out of the caps and put them in juice and drink it down


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3211092 - 10/03/04 08:01 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know... The source of those pills are questionable, he said. It seems prudent to toss them since it's not that much to begin with, and the effects questionable.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: gdman]
    #3211378 - 10/03/04 09:06 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, that's what I'll do next time. If nothing happens this time then I will know that they are either bunk or it was just a really really low dose. Unfortunately I don't have a scale to weigh them so I don't know how much each cap weighs.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3211406 - 10/03/04 09:12 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

That's a real shame if they were real and you bought 6 of them but just did half :/ Did the guy tell you to take them all at once? When I've given people OO capsules, I've really laid it on about how they need to take them all at once, lest they be disappointed. One time I gave someone 7 capsules (3.5g like gdman said) and she split it with her friend. I was as annoyed as she was.

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3211587 - 10/03/04 09:50 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

It seems like even with 3 capsules, even if they only weigh half a gram each, I should feel SOMETHING after 3 hours.

So you think each double OO capsule full of shroom powder only weighs .5g?


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3211814 - 10/03/04 10:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

I was walking around the backyard and I must have forgotten where I was at least three times back there. I would take a few steps, stop, look around, and forget where I was. Then suddenly I would remember that I was at my friend's house. This happened many times this night.

Other than the patterns, the only "hallucination," if you want to call it that, that I experienced was when I was sitting in the front yard and I saw this little thing on the concrete that looked like a lizard. I knew it wasn't a lizard, but I couldn't tell what it really was. I just stared at it, trying to figure out what it was, thinking it looked a lot like a lizard or maybe a tiger. Finally when I walked up to it, I realized it was just a piece of wood. Another slightly unusual thing is that I kept looking at these trees in the front yard and somehow they seemed very old to me, like they had seen a lot. I looked up at the branches and they seemed very complicated and intricate and somehow I had more respect for trees than I have had in the past. Again this could be "shrooms," or it could be weed, placebo or both.

Finally I got really tired and my friends and I went to bed. Even though I felt really tired I couldn't sleep and I ended up staying up all night long (lying in bed for like 5+ hours with no sleep sucked). All in all it was pretty disappointing, and I am still not sure whether I experienced a weak shroom trip or a really strong weed trip.




I don't understand why you're not sure....you just said you ate mushrooms and then described a mushroom trip. It probably wasn't a very high dose, so it wasn't overwhelming. And you said yourself you were questioning it the whole time, wich would also help to keep your grounded. 00 capsules hold .5, if that.


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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3211906 - 10/03/04 10:58 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Plok said:
So you think each double OO capsule full of shroom powder only weighs .5g?




If the entire long half of the capsule was packed tight, yeah. I exclusively cap my shrooms in OO capsules. Nice smooth comeup, no nausea, no taste :smile:

Actually, the capsule weighs ~100mg itself, so each capsule should weigh ~.6g

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Re: Did I trip?? Please help! [Re: Plok]
    #3212641 - 10/04/04 02:54 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I would say you either had a very low dose trip or bunko...but I guess thats pretty obvious...when you truely have a midlevel trip you don't have to ask if you tripped or not :laugh:

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