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OfflineSigno
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Die now, or later?
    #3209023 - 10/03/04 04:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have a hypothetical question for you:

Would you prefer to die young and be fondly remembered by all of your friends who continue living, or be the last person you know from youth to die and have no one to keep your memory alive?


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3209027 - 10/03/04 04:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

as long as my quality of life was still good in my old age (i could still think and not be in constant pain) than i would consider it a great blessing to live longer than anyone i knew. Sure it would be a bit lonely but still a gift to experience such a full life, more time to ponder the mystery and prepare for the final journey.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3209215 - 10/03/04 08:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not to mention it's highly unlikely that you end up being the last one who knew you. Just because they weren't your childhood friends doesn't mean they don't know you. What about children? Grandchildren? Most of us will have a bloodline carrying on below us that won't allow us to be forgotten so easily.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3209255 - 10/03/04 09:24 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'll die when I die


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3209274 - 10/03/04 09:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)


sorry if this sounds cold,
but the living keep moving,
the dead recede into the past.
2 generations down the line and you will be forgotten.
very few of us will be written into the history books.

'be fondly remembered'
'keep your memory alive'
these are just products of the ego.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: mr crisper]
    #3209406 - 10/03/04 11:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

im gona write a book! :P


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3209411 - 10/03/04 11:30 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'll live

you can meet new people all the time. if no one remembers me, too bad. When I'm dead I'm not around anyway to worry about that :smirk:


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3212346 - 10/04/04 02:43 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Live long and die fulfilled. Fuck being remembered.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3212366 - 10/04/04 02:49 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I definately need all the time I can get to make sure a) I am ready, b) I have made good karma, c) I have made some positive impact upon the world.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Shroomism]
    #3212385 - 10/04/04 02:55 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomism said:
I'll die when I die



:thumbup:


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3218695 - 10/05/04 05:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Great thoughts people, Thank you! :mushroom2:


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3219030 - 10/05/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Die? Define "Death" please.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Shroomerious]
    #3219149 - 10/05/04 06:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Shroomerious said:
Die? Define "Death" please.



The end of all body and brain functions.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3219187 - 10/05/04 06:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Signo said:
I have a hypothetical question for you:

Would you prefer to die young and be fondly remembered by all of your friends who continue living, or be the last person you know from youth to die and have no one to keep your memory alive?




Everyone you know goes away in the end. Everyone eventually becomes forgotten after a few generations.

Like ordinary people who lived 1000 years ago and left no foot notes in history. Long forgotten.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3219218 - 10/05/04 07:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The end of all body and brain functions.

Many bodily functions continue on after what we normally consider "death". Your hair continues to grow and cellular activity does not just halt all of a sudden! Even your brain cells continue to fire after "death".

I think a better definition for human death would be "the cessation of brain functioning in such a way that leaves the body uncontrolled". Ie: if your brain is no longer able to keep you conscious, keep your heat beating and your lungs breathing...then you are dead :wink:


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: trendal]
    #3219251 - 10/05/04 07:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Death is gonna be so kewl. i cant wait


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3219262 - 10/05/04 07:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, you must really be young (relatively speaking). At a certain point, life is like escaping a pursuing enemy across a mine field. Those you know are dying all around you but you have to keep running. Running is like breathing - it doesn't even occur to you to stop - you can't stop. You can hardly even slow down to grieve because it's only a matter of time before it's YOUR turn to die. It's not that you don't feel the loss, but you realize as you get older how precious lifetime is and you learn to celebrate each breathing moment, not wallow in a sense of loss or self-pity. I know this sounds cold, but it's not. Each death around you fills your heart with more and more Realization - Love, loss, grief, appreciation, regret for having not loved more. It's not mind-expansion as much as Love-expansion. When my old Daddy's last sibling died, and he was told, he said nothing. He wasn't demented - yet. I don't know what went on with him internally. Then my Dad died in August last. I covered his face and have experienced inner heart-felt states ever since.

No one is gonna visit a grave in 50 years unless it's a historical site. How about in 5,000 years? Maybe a monument the size of the pyramid Khufu/Cheops. How about in 50,000 years or 250,000 years? If Humankind still exists, or exists on Earth, even the pyramids will be sand. It's more productive of a Human life to think of one's smooth transition into Eternity (like getting into a perfectly comfortable bath, rather than one too hot or too cold :smile: ) than vainly imagining what temporality will be like without us in it. If we have Eternal value, it is in Eternity, in GOD, not in time. From the perspective of time, whole worlds are born and die, recorded only in the Book of Life. What could the memory of a Human be after the Earth vanishes in the inevitable supernova of our sun?

THINK COSMICALLY !


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3219297 - 10/05/04 07:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know what really happens to me from my "dead" point of view so I can not answer the question. What I can say is that I hope something fun and interesting happens and if somehow I find out what it is and I like it better than this world I may take a long walk off a short pier.

I need friends and I suppose that if all my friends die I will try to find some new ones but as my "old" ones are irreplacable(I don't know if this word exists) I will miss them much maybe to a point where I wished I had died first but then again I do not really know what happens when you die and when I asked for the definition of the term I didn't mean medically, evrybody knows that and I don't think that this post's question can be answered using that definition nor actually any other definition, except if you "know something more special" which you would like to share with us.


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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: Signo]
    #3219315 - 10/05/04 07:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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No one is gonna visit a grave in 50 years unless it's a historical site. How about in 5,000 years? Maybe a monument the size of the pyramid Khufu/Cheops. How about in 50,000 years or 250,000 years? If Humankind still exists, or exists on Earth, even the pyramids will be sand. It's more productive of a Human life to think of one's smooth transition into Eternity (like getting into a perfectly comfortable bath, rather than one too hot or too cold  ) than vainly imagining what temporality will be like without us in it. If we have Eternal value, it is in Eternity, in GOD, not in time. From the perspective of time, whole worlds are born and die, recorded only in the Book of Life. What could the memory of a Human be after the Earth vanishes in the inevitable supernova of our sun?




Great thoughts!

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Re: Die now, or later? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #3219349 - 10/05/04 07:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

'The lovers are but a thin veil on the ocean of the Beloved'  :thumbup: :heart: We either disappear in the literal sense, or we disappear into eternity; eternal rahman.  :thumbup:


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