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Offlinefreedomseeker
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Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info?
    #3208406 - 10/02/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I went to the Chiropractor yesterday. On the way home I decided to take a break from driving I-5 traffic and poke around a little. I parked my car and listened to John Lee Hooker singing "Rainy Day" with Van Morrison wishing we'd get some of that rain stuff, and walked around a parking lot for a few minutes.

Right down below where I was parked I saw a couple in their 60's or 70's that were mushrooming in the shrubs of a Top Foods landscaped strip. "Are you getting mushrooms?" I asked them...hoping to learn something new about what Top Foods had to offer my life.

"DAH!" the woman said....and she started up the steep dirt trail to where I was parked. Most of her teeth were filled with gold and she wore a simple, long, traditional skirt that I've seen a lot of Russian or Slavic people wear. She had one of those hats on her head that always remind me of the Pilgrims or the Quakers for some reason.

"Hear-oh-shee-a!" she said, and again, "Hear-oh-shee-a! Goot! Goot!" and she showed me this with her big, beautiful, gold smile. Her partner had a grocery bag full!



Here is another picture I took of the same mushroom, which also grow in my yard.


~See the significant bruising??? Immediate upon touching the pale tan to cream colored gills.
~Smell is pungent. Not mushroomy. Sharp smelling!

Here's a feeble attempt to show you the shape of the cap.



Tried to get a decent pic of the cut meat, which also turns an orangy almost cinnamon tone upon cutting.



~Gills are attached and descending the slalk part way.

~Cap on most are 7-8 cm broad and slightly indented with a faint ring design on it's top and are curled under. (don't remember the technical term...sorry)

~Height is approx 5-6 cm on average although I've seen larger.

~The gills are rather minor... 1/4 cm or so.

At first I thought maybe a Clitocybe of some sort.

Or a type of Lactarius. There is no 'bleeding' however. Red OR white.

Then I found the Paxilus involutus, which my information says that some people in parts of the world eat it but it can have a very acid/sour taste in some places. I found the taste to be pleasant and tasty with no after effects of numbness or bitterness etc when I spit it out.

My other guess would be the gilled bolete. It resembles one of the pictures I saw of them...which I can't seem to locate at the moment.

Any ideas???

You can meet the coolest people mushrooming!

L


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Edited by freedomseeker (10/03/04 12:26 AM)


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3208834 - 10/03/04 02:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

There are a lot of russian speaking people in the seattle area. 'Da' means 'yes'. Were you needing something translated? That almost looks like a chantrelle, but can't really tell for sure. I've never found them in town though. Here's a couple of chantrelles picked in the Cascades last week.




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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3209078 - 10/03/04 05:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm still inclined to the Lactarius genus. Are you sure it doesn't bleed red? It appears to do so in the gillshot (small red drops on the stem).
Anyway, it sure aren't catherelles or even false cantherelles.


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3209285 - 10/03/04 09:58 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It looks like a paxillus. The pore like gill on the stem and the redish staining and inrooled cap margin make me think it's probably P. involutus. Not a good mushroom to experiment with eating some people have died from eating this.


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: falcon]
    #3209547 - 10/03/04 12:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not a chanterelle! I am well aquainted with that one!

It really is not a bleeder! STAINER yes! Bleeder no!

On the translation. I wondered if her "Here0oh-shee-a" meant MUSHROOM or if it was the TYPE of mushroom.

I haven't known this mushroom to be edible in the past...and I am now wonderign if they are on to something or just have built an immunity to toxins in tthe mushroom.

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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3210113 - 10/03/04 04:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Paxillus Involutus?


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3210417 - 10/03/04 06:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well...that make three of us that think it's probably p. Involutus.

Wonder how those people can eat them and be okay???

The lady said they were "Goot!...Goot!!!"

I think I'll forego the experience.

L


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3210539 - 10/03/04 07:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3405812 - 11/24/04 10:13 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

the word they said right before 'goot, goot', that is, what you heard as "Hear-oh-shee-a!" means, in Russian, "Good", and nothing more :smile:


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3405938 - 11/24/04 10:48 PM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Other have already gotten here, I see.

That is Paxillus involutus, a mushroom that has cause numerous fatalities. Unfortunately, it is still treated as an edible mushroom by many people, especially from eastern Europe.

An easy way to verify the ID is with a spore print. Paxillus spore prints are brown, unlike any other mushrooms with that general appearance.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3406508 - 11/25/04 12:47 AM (12 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

freedomseeker said:
"DAH!" the woman said....



"Yes!"


Quote:

"Hear-oh-shee-a!"



"Good!"


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Re: Anyone speak Russion or Slavic??? Mushroom ID info? [Re: freedomseeker]
    #3417996 - 11/28/04 01:48 AM (12 years, 10 days ago)

Hey there FS! Long time no see, where the hell have ya been, aside from waiting for the rain with Van???? Missed your posts and wondered what you had been up to. Glad to see ya still around! Take care, MN


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