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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: hyphae]
    #3181210 - 09/25/04 11:42 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Bleach I dont use really, iodine, whats that for? Healthy myc I know..the peroxide I'm not sure..I dunno..all sorts of weird smells come from it though that I know aren't contams..


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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3181436 - 09/26/04 12:33 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Perlite/water/iodine instead of h2o2.

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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: hyphae]
    #3200743 - 09/30/04 04:28 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

ya its hard to tell by smell sometimes over the compost or substate and myc has a wierd kinda sweet smell to me. but you will know its bad if the smell gets worse. once i seen 1jar of 12 all looked great when the one was birthed it smelled horible and had primordia have you herd this happen much Hyphea. it was put outside fruited fine but still smelled.after 3rd flush it smelt ok but still finished it for experiment.

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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: seatrip]
    #3200866 - 09/30/04 05:01 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

It had primodia? You mean the little white knots that form into pins? But before you birthed it? Or did you mean it had something else..

I've heard of it. It's called bacterial contams. Can make jars look slimey and wet too.


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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3202398 - 10/01/04 12:20 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

CASING DISASTER UPDATE:

Sorry to say, but I gave up and threw it out.

In the 6 days from my last post, the bin hadn't done anything.  There was a slight increase in mycelium growth, but not much.  The bin was definitely taking on some kinda weird smell.  Didn't want to chance anything, so I tossed it.

<sniff> -- holding back tears... <sniff>

Anyways, I poked around in the substrate before I garbaged it to see what was going on.  There actually was quite a bit of white rhizos throughout the whole thing, but not healthy-looking.  Whispy strands everywhere -- not strong fluffy growth.

I think the problem was WAY too much compost/manure and also too much water.  The mycelium couldn't grow properly in that environment.  I think bacteria were starting to compete.

But all is not lost: I've got a couple mini-casings on the go from some WBS I had sitting around.  They're doing really well, and I'll be posting a new thread with pics in a few days! :wink:


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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: XanaDude]
    #3202434 - 10/01/04 12:27 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Probably to much water but sounds like a bacterial thing. Hard to say from a description of course but ya know :smile: Sorry to hear about your loss though :frown: Good luck with your other endevours :smile:


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay

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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: XanaDude]
    #3203088 - 10/01/04 05:53 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

And cool avatar too Xana :smile:


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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: hyphae]
    #3203098 - 10/01/04 06:03 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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hyphae said:
Perlite/water/iodine instead of h2o2.




kramer wants to know if he should switch to iodine? :thumbup: :thumbdown: :confused:


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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: george castanza]
    #3203147 - 10/01/04 06:50 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

If kramers doing fine with H2o2 then a switch will may only save him from having to "recharge" your perlite so often. H2o2 breaks down quickly where as iodine does not, kramers a smart man he'll know what to do :wink: A couple of drops vs. a half bottle or more of 3% is also something to consider.

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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: hyphae]
    #3205507 - 10/02/04 12:08 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Scatman, Hyphae, Hawks, etc. etc. for all your help.

Yeah, the Avatar.  Found it on an Aquarium owners' bulletin board.  Weird, huh?

Love the boobies.  In fact, they're so distracting I have trouble reading the posts! :smile:


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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: XanaDude]
    #3205968 - 10/02/04 05:06 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

wow hyphae, that IS something to consider. i go through peroxide like a hospital... i think i might just switch to iodine myself. does it kill mold/spores too?

how much should be diluted into the water i use to wet the perlite?


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Re: Newbie Casing Disaster -- is there hope? [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3206130 - 10/02/04 08:18 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

1-2 drops per gallon. This renders bacterial contamed water safe for drinking but the water needs to sit for an hour.

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