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OfflineAithin
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First Grain Attempt
    #3206121 - 10/02/04 10:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I was curious, which grain substrate material would you all recomend for a newbie to grains.  I was reading about popcorn and I really like how simple it sounds, but I haven't read much about WBS.  Can anyone recomend a good substrate/tek :smile:

Thanks


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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: Aithin]
    #3206122 - 10/02/04 10:13 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

popcorn is the way to go bro!! :smile:
im doing my first grow on pocorn with a coir casing both at the top and bottom and im about a day or two i suppose from pinning cause i can allready see hundreds of knots on my casing !!

go for it! :thumbup:  its really simple ! :smile:


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    #3206123 - 10/02/04 10:15 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)



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Self Healing lid tek
Fast, easy, fool proof inoculation
Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest
Cup O' Shrooms
Magash:  I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers :whack:
Hyphae:  Yes  "Loss of moisture from the substrate"  is not a casing trigger.  :cuckoo:

My final Grow!


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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: Citric]
    #3206138 - 10/02/04 10:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

he is a veteran so he would know better !!
i just found it easy as hell for my first grow!!
infact for my first grow i had the added disadvantage of having to make my own spore syringe but it still worked out well and i found it really easy to shake and break up within the jar itself even after it was like 110% colonized !!

u could try various different strains at the sametime to see how it goes !

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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: Aithin]
    #3206427 - 10/02/04 12:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

WBS for spawning, Rye for casing.

I prefer rye overall. It is easier to avoid exploding them and less problems with having to pick out certain seeds and floaters. Plus it doesn't seem to stick together as easy as WBS even without jet dry.


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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: MadHatR]
    #3206444 - 10/02/04 12:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

rye for casing ??????!!!???!?

could u please please gimme some more info on tht !!
i think it would really help !! :smile:
thanks a lot!
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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: ganeshaa]
    #3206494 - 10/02/04 12:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)



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pftek said:Impossible to clean everything right now. Maybe in a week.





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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: george castanza]
    #3206571 - 10/02/04 01:34 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Rye tends to work best if you plan on casing it. I am sure there are many scientific reasons for this that others could explain better, but a large part of it is that while being more loosely packed, but yet still close enough to allow the myc to grow from one to the other and then to the casing, this also allows for more air which speeds up growth. Also I have found it to be easier to spear evenly in your casing, and a nice even layer is a major factor for maximum number of pins, larger growth, and pretty much overall higher yields.

You might want to do a few of each type though so you can judge for yourself. If nothing else you will have some that you can use for spawning.

In the end you will most likely end up picking your favorite by first impressions of it. The problem with that is that there are so many factors that often times people blame the grain for something they did or didn't do and they didn't even know it. I am currently in the process of doing a case study on all possible combinations and controllable factors. All types of grains, transfer techs, airflow levels, etc. Hopefully with that I can take the results and prove the best overall method. It will take some time though. I will post the spreadsheet and results when done.


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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: MadHatR]
    #3206665 - 10/02/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

After researching whole grains I decided to go with popcorn for my first grow with them (for simplicity and ease of use).

So far everything is going great. The jars are 75% done and they were inoculated about a week ago. Good luck.


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Re: First Grain Attempt [Re: MycoCat]
    #3206877 - 10/02/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Also of course what you can find where you live is a huge factor. Some people have trouble finding rye where they live. Others can only find WBS with to many things that cause problems like sunflower seeds or chemicals on them. Everywhere has popcorn. Also some things are easier to get in bulk without being questioned. On the up side it's due to all of these choices that new things are found. Everything from cardboard to coffee. From rotini to romen (one that I really hope works out, I bought cases of those all through college without any problems. Plus when they are done growing you can just chop them up in the left over romen and make soup. Not to mention the fact it is a great size for casing and will always be a even layer.).


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