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Invisiblegloom
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I need help with WBS tek
    #3201073 - 09/30/04 08:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23619

I want to go by that tek, but it's not so clear,
maybe it's just me because I'm a noob and don't know how to add my own steps,
but, common sense guessing tells me that you do this.. I'm going to skip over the prior steps until you see all of the pics down the page without descriptions,

you mix the colonized jar with a tub full of dry bird seed - can I add only 1 jar to a tub like that? or is there a ratio I need to follow?

do I need to use anything for humidification?


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201108 - 09/30/04 08:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yep, just follow the pics. Soak, rinse, drain, load jars, pc, etc. Ask if you need more help.


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: pshawny]
    #3201139 - 09/30/04 08:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I do need help, could you answer the other questions in my post please? I don't know how many jars to add to the dry WBS


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201161 - 09/30/04 08:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You soak the wild bird seed in water over night then put the wbs in the jar 3/4 full then add tyvek lid from jar tighten and pc them for 45 min then innoc jars through the lid then sit and let colonize

Jars to add to what can I ask that?


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201166 - 09/30/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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you mix the colonized jar with a tub full of dry bird seed - can I add only 1 jar to a tub like that? or is there a ratio I need to follow?







are you trying to spawn your already colonized wbs ?


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201182 - 09/30/04 08:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I take it you already have some colonized jars. You don't add those colonized jars to dry WBS. You can do up some more jars and you can transfer some colonized WBS to the new jars. Does that help ?


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: motaman]
    #3201195 - 09/30/04 08:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yes that is what I'll be doing. I'm a first time grower and I'm wanting to do a method that is done in a tub, either rye or wbs tek, no pf-teks unless the method is same as the wbs tek, meaning... fully colonizing the cakes and putting layer of something on bottom, emptying cakes on that, and (possibly) putting the same substance used on bottom for over the cakes so it would be sandwiched,
the reason I said all of that is because I also want to be told what would be simplest way for me to grow. the WBS tek is easier than the pf-tek I have learned and that is why I want to do the wbs-tek. not to mention I favor tub fruiting methods..


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201205 - 09/30/04 08:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

all of this really confuses me because there are so many details left out in the tek. It's stressing me out like I feel like I don't know what to do. can anyone clear everything up for me? maybe refer me to a good tek with nothing leftout? I would sure appreciate it.. sorry about needing so much from you guys but I am only a newbie.


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201246 - 09/30/04 09:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Then I would recommend doing some WBS jars. You can put damp vermiculite in the bottom of the tub. Spread colonized WBS over damp vermiculite. Cover colonized WBS with a 50/50 coir/verm mixture. Bottom verm layer should be 1", WBS layer should be 1-2", and top coir/verm layer should be 1/2-3/4". There are plenty of teks to look at. I suggest reading all you can before you do anything.


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: pshawny]
    #3201249 - 09/30/04 09:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

pshawny said:
I take it you already have some colonized jars. You don't add those colonized jars to dry WBS. You can do up some more jars and you can transfer some colonized WBS to the new jars. Does that help ?





please post a transfer tek bro

hell i cant find it even under the search engine under transfer or grain to grain so post it if you know it!
Also a good question at this point would be to ask when you wanna do a transfer can you open the lids on your fully colonized jars? How many times? And what risks does this pose for the cake? Can it now ward off contam once fully colonized?
Any answers appreciated!!!!! And it makes a nice edition to the thread!



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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3201268 - 09/30/04 09:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Grain to Grain transfer tek:
http://www.shroomery.org/index/the/default/par/24330

A fully colonized cake is able to fight off contams pretty well. You still want to work fast and clean. It's best if done with a glove box or in front of a hepa filter.


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: pshawny]
    #3201296 - 09/30/04 09:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you for posting that! :crazy2:


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201349 - 09/30/04 09:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

what stores can I find coco coir at? ..besides health foot stores, we have none


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: pshawny]
    #3201358 - 09/30/04 09:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

pshawny said:
Then I would recommend doing some WBS jars. You can put damp vermiculite in the bottom of the tub. Spread colonized WBS over damp vermiculite. Cover colonized WBS with a 50/50 coir/verm mixture. Bottom verm layer should be 1", WBS layer should be 1-2", and top coir/verm layer should be 1/2-3/4". There are plenty of teks to look at. I suggest reading all you can before you do anything.




at that time, when those processes are complete. can I inject more spores at that point? since it will be recolonizing? I'm thinking of squirting only .1cc everywhere I can, with 2 inches inbetween each innoculated point.


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201377 - 09/30/04 09:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

one more thing, is "crossbreeding" good with mushrooms? can I put one cambodian and 1 golden teacher jar into the same tub? I'm going to do 12 jars at once so I'll have 6 tubs. this makes me really motivated. I'll be growing it in a portable closet too so things should stay clean while fruiting.


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201389 - 09/30/04 09:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/8

Read through these teks. No, you wouldn't inject more spores.


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: pshawny]
    #3201394 - 09/30/04 09:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I know I wouldn't do it, but I'm asking to experiment with it.. to see if any different results come from it, because ill be doing 6 tubs so I think 1 experiment would be worth it if it grows more shrooms..


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: gloom]
    #3201445 - 09/30/04 10:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I heard if you  :syringe: your ass they well there the temp is optimal! Just like :cow: Let me know how that experiment works!  :werd:


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Re: I need help with WBS tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3201476 - 09/30/04 10:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHa....!!!!!


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