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Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling
    #3199949 - 09/30/04 02:57 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling

By Associated Press

September 30, 2004, 9:13 AM EDT

SCHEVENINGEN, Netherlands -- The U.S. Justice Department will probably appeal a New York district court ruling that the Patriot Act violates the U.S. constitution, Attorney General John Ashcroft said Thursday.
Ashcroft said he would study it upon his return to Washington but "it's almost a certainty it will be appealed."
"We believe the act to be completely consistent with the United States constitution," he told reporters at talks with European Union officials.
On Wednesday, a district judge struck down a USA Patriot Act provision allowing the FBI to gather phone and Web customer records and then barring the service providers from ever disclosing the search took place.
The decision is the second time a judge has ruled unconstitutional part of the Patriot Act, a package of prosecution and surveillance tools passed shortly after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
"There are hundreds of district court judges, and one of them has indicated that some parts of the Patriot Act, in accordance with his view, does not meet constitutional standards," he said. "We will continue in the United States to use every tool we have in the Constitution to fight terrorism."
Judge Victor Marrero said the law violated the Fourth Amendment because it barred or deterred any judicial challenge to government searches, and it violated the First Amendment because its permanent ban on disclosure was a prior restraint on speech.
He noted that the U.S. Supreme Court recently said that a "state of war is not a blank check for the president when it comes to the rights of the nation's citizens."
"Sometimes a right, once extinguished, may be gone for good," Marrero wrote.
President Bush has been pushing Congress to renew the Patriot Act before it expires next year, arguing that it is one of law enforcement's best tools in preventing another catastrophic terrorist attack.

Copyright ? 2004, The Associated Press


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Re: Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling [Re: ekomstop]
    #3200002 - 09/30/04 03:16 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

That guy has to be the most evil fuck I could imagine holding that position. Even worse than Janet Reno. There aren't many people in this world that I'd wish death upon, but I hope he dies in the most painful way possible.


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Re: Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling [Re: silversoul7]
    #3200022 - 09/30/04 03:22 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)


this might be old news or off thread topic,
but didnt Ashcroft lose his seat in the senate (or was it the MO governership)
to a dead guy about 4 years ago?


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Re: Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling [Re: MrBump]
    #3200034 - 09/30/04 03:25 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

He didn't lose any seat. He was running for governor against the incumbent, who died during the election, and the people still voted for the incumbent. If I'm not mistaken, I think the incumbent's wife took his place, or something like that.


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Re: Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling [Re: ekomstop]
    #3200061 - 09/30/04 03:29 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

oh fuck ashcroft in his ass


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Re: Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling [Re: silversoul7]
    #3200069 - 09/30/04 03:30 PM (13 years, 26 days ago)

If I remember, the incumbent was Mel Carnihan (sp?)... this was back in the late 90's...


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Re: Ashcroft Likely to Appeal Patriot Ruling [Re: silversoul7]
    #3200252 - 09/30/04 04:11 PM (13 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

silversoul7 said:
He didn't lose any seat. He was running for governor against the incumbent, who died during the election, and the people still voted for the incumbent. If I'm not mistaken, I think the incumbent's wife took his place, or something like that.




thanks SS7


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