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Invisibleem_bre_O
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ATTN MikeoLogical
    #3197834 - 09/29/04 10:07 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

No contest winning has come...........What's going on? If the addy is needed let me know to give it to u again please.

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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: em_bre_O]
    #3198532 - 09/30/04 12:43 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

That was sent out weeks ago... are you sure nobody else is getting your mail?


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Offlinegardentoad
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: em_bre_O]
    #3199622 - 09/30/04 11:04 AM (19 years, 5 months ago)

Hi Mike. I never recieved my contest prize either. I read that you were having hurricane troubles and that things were being sent out a little later so I have waited to communicate with you. Shall I send another address. I am certain that no one is messing with my mail. Thanks. :shocked:

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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: gardentoad]
    #3200128 - 09/30/04 01:42 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

very strange... PM me with your addresses... the same for anyone else who hasn't gotten a contest prize...

all the prizes from the last contest were sent out over two weeks ago, so everyone who won a contest should have their prizes by now...


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We got Nothing!
we're no longer selling jars.  :laugh:

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Offlinedeff
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: em_bre_O]
    #3200319 - 09/30/04 02:26 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I never got one from that bilbo baggins contest a while back, but no worry - I've got supplies anyways :smile:

When you're as generous with as many contests and prizes as you are, it's no wonder a few have problems.


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Invisibleem_bre_O
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: deff]
    #3237496 - 10/09/04 08:32 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I'll send u another addy........no one kknows that info.

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InvisibleJohn
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3252856 - 10/19/04 06:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

maybe someones fuckin with your mail? prolly use a p.o. and all but still the local p.o. might has some scumbag employees, just a thought as it seems quite a few packages are missing and it's unlikely that each of them had it taken from their end. not implying your shady or anything just sayin it wouldn't be the first time a usps employee was jackin mail, if it continues i would inform them about it and they will investigate, they take that shit serious :stoned:


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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: John]
    #3253795 - 10/19/04 10:00 PM (19 years, 5 months ago)

I really don't think there's a problem... I sent over a hundred free syringes out that month, and out of 5 i sent to Canada four never made it... every one but one that I sent out in the US has arrived safely.

Based on this, I've decided that shipping to Canada is too risky.


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We got Nothing!
we're no longer selling jars.  :laugh:

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InvisibleJohn
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3258922 - 10/21/04 12:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

yea i sent a package to canada and it got frisked by canada customs as well, guess they're beefin it up lately


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Invisiblemonkeynilla
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: John]
    #3296284 - 10/30/04 03:48 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I send money to people I trust, at least I used to...
why are you getting such a bum rap?

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OfflineDemus
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: monkeynilla]
    #3437426 - 12/02/04 12:48 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

troll

Edited by motaman (12/02/04 02:14 PM)

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Demus]
    #3437713 - 12/02/04 01:40 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I think this will give Mike an opportunity to explain himself and comment on the allegations that hippie3 is posting over there.

Or wait a second, I just noticed it is from July 1st, maybe Mike already has?


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: theocean06]
    #3437773 - 12/02/04 01:54 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I am very worried. Hippe3 has accused the professor of being a police informant, and has claimed that pfjars.com is part of the scam. I have recieved merchandice from MikeO in the past and do NOT need fucking LEOs knocking on my door. I would really like some answers here.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fearfect]
    #3437798 - 12/02/04 01:58 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

>Hippie3 has accused the professor of being a police informant

Hippie has also accused Ythan (the founder of the shroomery) to be a snitch and informant back in 1999. He basically accuses everyone he has a problem with to be a snitch.

Hippie is a capable grower, but as far his conspiracy theories go, I don't believe him a word. And you should neither.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fearfect]
    #3437815 - 12/02/04 02:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

and has claimed that pfjars.com is part of the scam. I have recieved merchandice from MikeO in the past and do NOT need fucking LEOs knocking on my door. I would really like some answers here.






that is a bunch of slanderous crap..I know Mike0Logical personally and that is simply NOT TRUE..


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OfflineMikeOLogical
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: motaman]
    #3439059 - 12/02/04 06:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I'm no narc. I've been a sponsor here almost a year, I've given away hundreds of spore prints and spore syringes... not a single person I've sent anything to has been busted.

Hippie3 is jealous of me and the fact that Professor fanaticus gave me his spore syringe recipe. Hippie3 thinks she's the one who should have been given the recipe, and now she's mad...


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3439095 - 12/02/04 06:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MikeOLogical said:
Hippie3 is jealous of me and the fact that Professor fanaticus gave me his spore syringe recipe. Hippie3 thinks she's the one who should have been given the recipe, and now she's mad...




sounds like a movie!! mikeOlogical is trustworthy imo.


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Invisiblefearfect
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: TODAY]
    #3439991 - 12/02/04 09:28 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I always trusted MikeO but anybody mentioning LEO conspiracies freaks me out sometimes. I really enjoyed the freebie you sent me Mike. They are some of the best samples I've ever had the pleasure to work with. Thanks all for calming me down, I really need to unsubscribe to hippie's newsletter

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fearfect]
    #3441006 - 12/03/04 04:31 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3441023 - 12/03/04 04:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

>who they believe more-
>me, the guy who's been here for years,
>or gerald, who's been around a few months,
>or pf, the guy who got busted and walked.

I don't belive YOU anything, for that matter. You have a year long history of accusing everybody you have a beef with as being a "narc",a "snitch" or" informant".
All one has to do is go and search the usenet post for words like snitch, narc in combination with hippie3

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=snitch+alt.drugs.mushrooms+hippie3

The list of people you accused of being a snitch is long, including Ythan and Ryche Hawk.

And, PF didn't just get busted and walked, in contrary:
he is a convicted felon, he served 8 months(if I remember correctly) home arrest, and he lost several of his properties and Bank accounts.
So, your "evidence" is on very thin ice.


Here is the story about his bust and everything what followed from your site:

THE RAID

THE DAILY WORLD (Aberdeen Washington Newspaper) - Wednesday, February 19,
2003 ... (cut to last few paragraphs - a witness describes events) ... "It
all started (Monday) night," a Lake Quinault-area business owner said this
morning. "I seen helicopters, all of these Federal vehicles." "Then they
all met up here at the Forest Service (Tuesday) morning at 6." McPherson
was a regular at the business owner's shop, the man said. "I knew him for
three of four years, and knew he was in the internet business - but not the
mushroom thing." (end of article)

Time and place - 7:30 a.m. Tuesday February 18 2003 - 630 North Shore Road -
Lake Quinault Rain Forest.

BANG BANG - I awoke from sleep and jumped up off the couch I was reclining
on. I was fully dressed in my usual garb, sweat pants, comfy flannel shirt
and socks. Then another BANG BANG. I looked over at the front door of the
living room about 12 feet away and it was shaking violently. As I came to
consciousness I had several thoughts race through my mind faster than the
speed of light, as if I had several consecutive thoughts occur at once. The
first thought was that I was dreaming, but that faded fast. Then I thought
there was a madman banging at my front door trying to get in, and I
immediately thought to grab my tonfa (martial arts weapon) that I kept near
me were I would crash, but then I saw black helmets through the small window
view at the top of the door and as I glanced out one of the windows in the
front, I saw a couple of official looking guys with their arms folded across
their chests standing on the road watching. Again - BANG BANG, the door
shuddered and as I ran over to the door to open it, I thought to myself,
"isn't this rather extreme, I mean, for it all to end this way, this
violence is a bit un-called for, don't you think (I thought to myself)."
Right before the next BANG, I opened the door just in time to keep it from
crashing open with the lock mechanism ripping out of the door frame. What
concerns me, was that I never locked the front door. I am sure it was
unlocked. They could have just come right on in. I now try to remember to
alwasy lock it at night, but I still sometimes forget. My house is four
miles up North Shore road, in the Olympic National Park, Lake Quinault Rain
forest and prowlers and thieves are rare. And if there are any, it is
usually an inside job from dumb fuck local kids.

So I open the door and there they were, several dudes dressed in black, with
helmets, shields, automatic machine guns, the guy in front dropping the
battering ram to the ground, and in big yellow letters on their uniforms -
D.E.A. The next thing I heard was, "get on the floor, NOW!" As I complied,
the voice screamed at me again, "get DOWN, put your hands behind your back!"
I got down as fast as I could in the narrow space between me, the door, and
the forward thrusting black uniforms, shields, and big fucking guns. As the
well shined black boots and neat uniforms streamed by, someone handcuffed
me. I felt his knee on my back, but he put no pressure. Again someone
yelled, "police, search warrant, police!" Through the house they went,
yelling with crashing sounds and more banging and kicking open frail little
bedroom doors punctuated with a loud voice, "clear." I thanked whatever god
might exist, because my wife was not upstairs in her bedroom, she was in the
Bahamas on a vacation junket with her daughter (an ex employee of PF, who
wisely quit a few years earlier). But her daughter just had been here at
the house, and a couple of days earlier she and her mom had left for Seatac
Airport for a couple of weeks of fun, sun, sand and surf (which ended
abruptly when they got the bad news). My step daughter would have been in
the second upstairs bedroom, naked (I think she sleeps that way, but I am
not sure). I am sure those DEA dudes would have dragged them both out of
bed if they hadn't of got up because of the chaos and noise that engulfed
the house. But, no such thing happened. Me and the cats were the only
people in the house, and to me, it is one of the great "miracles" of my
life. I can't be more serious about it. The raid was a real bitch. It was
like the end of the world happened.

As I lay there on the floor, the realization swept in, and I knew my life
had just changed. But I couldn't believe it would be in such a violent way.
I expected to eventually get into trouble selling Magic Shroom spores. I
was getting really famous and selling almost three thousand syringes per
month with all of the usual idiotic nonsense from the usual percentage of
morons who order (boxes coming back - undeliverable). But I had no idea it
would be a full blown DEA raid with AK 47's et all. I thought I would just
be visited by a couple of cop cars and agents with a search warrant and I
would make an end. But not this way, it was as if I was an armed terrorist,
or I was a wanted rapist murderer, or that I was a suspect in some kind of
cop killing or armed bank robbery.

So I just remained calm and laid there on the floor, what could I do? After
a couple of minutes of mayhem, the house was pronounced "clear" and the DEA
swat team all came back down the stairs and proceeded to go down to the
garage (daylight basement and outside). After about 10 minutes, a couple of
plain clothes detectives, checked out the fat living room armchair (looked
behind the cushions to check for weapons) that was near the front door,
lifted me up off the floor, and placed me in the chair.

Then the main dude came in - the leader of the DEA team. They led me over
to the dining room table and seated me down. The special agent DEA dude
then sat down across from me, placed a tape recorder on the table, and then
read me my rights - you know how it goes - "you have the right to remain
silent, you have the right to an attorney, anything you say can be used
against you in a court of law --- etc." Then the agent looks at me and
says, Robert, this is serious, you are in big time trouble. Yeah, no shit
(I thought). Then he surprises me by telling me that if I give them
information that they can use, it can be a lot better for me. I suppose
they were asking me if I knew of any weed gro-ops, meth labs or stuff going
on in the area. The DEA dudes were congregating around the living room
looking at me, and I said, "I don't know nothin' about what's going on
around here, I hardly know anyone, and if I did, I wouldn't tell you shit,
because I'm not a rat (all true statements)." And then I turned and glared
at the cops standing around. They blinked.

Then the agent in charge, began his probes. He said they were at that
moment raiding Judy's house (my sister in law) as well as her childhood
family brother?s house (Steve). That scared me. Judy is almost an invalid
and suffers from severe asthma and osteoporosis. She is very weak and frail
and I kind of freaked out. Then I told the agent that I know the score on
these drug raids, and the advice that lawyers and various publications say
about what to do in the event of a raid is to - "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DON'T
SAY SHIT UNTIL YOU SEE A LAWYER." Well, I figured that they know a lot
already, and if I just tell them what they already know and are ready to
prove in court, maybe they won't arrest Judy. So I told the agent I was
going to talk in order that they don't have to arrest Judy (hopefully). He

didn't give me any confirmation that he would not arrest her.

So then I talked and told them that I was the MAN that they want, the
leader, the PF business owner and that the few shrooms that they found
upstairs were the source of my spores and that they were magic mushrooms
etc. etc. I was out in the open anyway, with income taxes paid every year,
the web site, the whole deal. What was I hiding? Nothing.

Then in comes a chick cop and her drug dog. I just told the chick cop that
my weed was under the coffee table and her dog was jumping around it anyway.
So she pulled out my jars of weed and in one jar was that special once every
6 months weed - you know - primo shit. She obviously knew what she was
doing because as she took the jar out of the coffee table shelf, she looked
at it, looked at the agent in charge sitting at the dining room table with
me, pointed at the jar, nodded her head and rolled her eyes as if to say,
"This is the good stuff." And then I complained, "that's my medical weed."
And then one of the cops asked, "Do you have a prescription?" I answered,
"If I did, you wouldn't give a shit anyway." He smiled knowing that I spoke
truth.

Meanwhile, my older cat (Piss Head) escaped out of the house through one of
the open doors, but my younger cat (Cheat) appeared, and the drug dog barked
at him. The Chick cop controlled her dog and then Cheat ran like mad
through the DEA guys (who jumped) and out the back opened door. I yelled to
them to let him go. I felt really bad because of the ordeal that my two
cats were going to go through. But one of the detectives went next door
with a house key and gave it to my neighbor (a really hip school teacher
chick) and he said that she said she would look out for them, (and she did -
even though Cheat disappeared for several days).

The special agent in charge asks me another question, "where's the liqueur?"
Damn, he knows about that! So I told him - "in the freezer, behind the
turkey." He got it out and put it on the counter. (What was amazing, was
that when me and my wife finally got home about 10 days later, there the
liqueur was, still on the counter - they didn't bother to take it - as if to
leave me a gift)! I guess they had everything they could want (photos of my
little grow op - and several grams of dried shrooms that they found in a
waste basket, and scads of evidence of my operation) so the psilly liqueur
wouldn't have made any difference in the case. Plus, the containers weren't
tight enough to keep them sealed and the liqueur would have leaked all over.
And also, I told the agent I really don't have a clue exactly how good it is
or what is actually in it. I was planning to test it on myself, but those
plans came to an abrupt end, because when my wife and I got home, I was so
bummed out that I was in no mood to try it and go on a trip. And plus, I
have no idea if psilly can be detected in a drug test (probably not, but I
was tested constantly for drugs and booze). So because of those two
reasons, I emptied the liqueur out on the lawn. But the consistency of the
whitish crystals in the ethanol was interesting - hard and not sticky,
separable and loose with a surprising weight to it. I suppose the agent was
pleased that I just fessed it up so that he just left it there. How
bizarre! Those guys knew everything, even about the psilly liqueur that I
consider to be one of the really great drug discoveries of all time.

To digress, the really great thing about the PF TEK, is that it actually
makes the acquisition of magic shrooms safer. With the PF TEK, there is no
danger of getting poisoned by a dangerous toxic mushroom that can be
encountered and misidentified in a wild collection of shrooms. The infamous
deadly killer look alike shroom - Galerina Autumnalis has been seen,
photographed and documented growing right next to the glorious little
Pacific Northwest mulch and lawn shroom - Psilocybe Stunzii. With the PF
TEK, that danger is eliminated. There are reports of youngsters and even
experienced shroom hunters getting killed by these extremely dangerous
organisms. I think it is one of the most amazing mysteries of nature that
fungi can be a delectable edible food, a medicine, an obnoxious worthless
sickening thing one might try and eat, a destroyer of trees (parasitic
fungi), a poison of unparalleled lethality, and an organism that causes the
human mind to experience the source of religions. So as far as I am
concerned, I did a great deed in eliminating that fearful danger of mushroom
poisoning that shroomers hunting for the magic realm of the shrooms can
accidentally get. Plus, when the Crystal liqueur (tested, tried and then
applauded on the net by adventurous doers of my TEKS) is added to the PF
TEK, that is the greatest psychedelic discovery in history - total quality -
fit for the gods - number one. Timothy Leary and all the rest of those
squeekers need to stand humble before the mighty crystals. But I digress.

So then the special agent says that they are going to take me to jail up to
Seattle. That made me a bit nauseous. I then saw some big trucks with
trailers pull up to the house and they begin to load my pickup truck and my
wife's Honda recreational vehicle. I couldn't believe it, what a pain in
the ass, they were taking our cars! It wasn't that they were Mercedes, or
Jaguars, or Rolls Royce's. They were just low eschalon everyday cars with
no big value, but just the same, those ass holes were taking them which
means that if I was to get out of jail, we would really be stuck because I
and my wife live way out here in the boonies. At least the agent in charge
said they were leaving Judy's car.

Meanwhile, over at Steve's house, he wasn't there. Steve was on his way to
a vacation in San Francisco. The cops checked out his computer and
discovered his itinerary and went to the motel were he was staying and
arrested him there and got his truck. Those cops are really efficient.
When they act, there is nothing they don't know, it's fucking amazing!

BRIGHT MOMENT NUMBER ONE

Amidst all of the hubbub, as I was sitting there at the dining room table,
there were two DEA guys standing in the middle of the living room watching
me. DEA dude number one was a little shorter than DEA dude number two. DEA
dude number two was sort of glaring at me and he looked like he had been in
a fight, because his lip had a scab on it. On the wall, there were photos
of my Stonehenge stuff, and DEA dude number one asked me, "what's that all
about?" So I told him that to put it simply, it was just a vision
representing high authority - the Hierarchy. And then I asked him, "do you
see that path way that is lit up with the light coming from the out way?"
"And do you see that gateway and those two standing there guarding?" DEA
dude number one says, "Yeah." So then I answered, "to put it very simply,
ass holes can't pass thru the guardians to the avenue of the light and
beyond." Then DEA dude number one turns and says to DEA dude number two,
"Well I guess that leaves you out." DEA dude number two turns and glowers
at me as if he is just waiting for me to do something so he can kick my ass.
I guess DEA dude number one knows something about life!

BRIGHT MOMENT NUMBER TWO

The DEA squad was gathered in the living room standing around and I could
sort of sense that they were wondering - why the big deal (?). There was no
big grow op, or weed garden, or Meth lab, or guns or anything other than a
couple of shrooms growing in a terrarium. So I said, "Dee Eee fucking AA!"
One of them answered me, "in person - the real deal." The DEA dudes were
impressed with the view out the back of my house. They had to open all the
windows because the air in the house reeked of that super skunk weed I
smoked before I crashed on the couch the night before. Then one of them
noticed that the house seemed to be leaning towards the lake. The floor can
be detected to be slanting and also, the sliding glass door has an obvious
closing problem in that it doesn't shut tight at the bottom because of the
lean. One of the DEA dudes made a comment that the house is falling into
the lake (actually not, the house has been stable for decades), and I just
said, "who cares, you are going to take the house anyway." But in the end,
I kept the house, glory be!

DUMB MOMENT

As I sat there waiting for things to get finished up around the house,
another DEA dude sat near me and started some kind of bullshit philosophy
thing about it all being a "dream." I sort of engaged him, but then I got
pissed off and shrugged him off and told him to leave me the fuck alone.
"LIFE IS NOT A DREAM" I said strongly.
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-------- The DEA special agent in charge turned out to be a pretty good guy,
in that he tried to do what he could do to make it easy on me. He started
to speed things up because I realized later that he wanted to get me before
the judge in the afternoon, so that I wouldn't have to be taken to the
Pierce county jail (an absolute hellish hole) because I would have to stay
there to catch the Judge the next day. The special agent knew that if I saw
the Judge in time, I would go to the Federal Detention Center at Seatac, a
much nicer place in comparison and I wouldn't be shocked with that county
lockup. They next took the handcuffs off of me and fingerprinted me. The
agents then put the handcuffs back on me and then did a total chain up.
This was a foreshadow of what was to come. They just don't put handcuffs on
you anymore, they chain you up so you can't run or lash out with your hands.
They make you very very safe, no matter what kind of bad ass motherfucker
you think you are. Then they had to process me further so they took me up
to the North Shore Ranger Station (a tourist place and ranger station
combined) for more processing. There was a fax machine there. So as I was
sitting there in the lovely North Shore Ranger Station, an old cedar wooden
building next to a tourist type trail the goes into the Rain Forest (The
Maple Glade Trail), they bring in Judy, all chained up. I got depressed.
Judy told me that she was not in bed when the fed vehicles came driving up
her driveway. She sensed something evil was coming her way but in the end,
the woman is a class act. She has some serious intuition. She lets them in
and they start their routine raid stuff. She protests at one point and one
of the agents pushed her down onto her couch and told her to shut up and not
to move. She told me that it hurt her a little bit. And that is because
she is extremely frail, but she was all right and they respected her. And
when they took her to the Ranger Station, they made sure she had her
medications (Oxycontin, Vicodin, Morphine and all of that good stuff that
she has by prescription). By the way, all of these years, I have never hit
her up for any of that good shit. I got a head on my shoulders with a
damned good brain in it.

But the special agent then told me, that they were not going to take her to
jail and that she was going to be released with a date with the judge. I
thanked him and began to feel a lot better. And again, instead of DEA dudes
watching me, there was a couple of fully armed (more armed than usual)
Olympic National Park Forest Rangers guarding me as the special DEA agent in
charge and his detectives were faxing stuff. Then I said to the two
rangers, "you know, right out that window," startled, because of my address
to them, they looked out the window to the green grassed deer field out in
back, I told them, "when the first rains hit at the end of summer around
September, there are thousands and thousands of Psilocybe Semilanceata
growing." They didn't really know what I was talking about, but I guess
they eventually figured out what I told them, and it was true. I have
watched that field for years in amazement as the magic lib caps appear like
clock work at the very first rains, even if it has been dry. But I only
look and don't pick. I hate ass holes who when they find some magic
shrooms, pick them all. If you are not going to eat any, leave them be so
that they can spread their glorious spores into the wind and proliferate.
That's respect for nature. Selling them as a drug is a bad business,
because people don't like buying shrooms, they prefer them for free.

So they unchain Judy, and she wishes me goodbye and walks free. I almost
cried for joy. Then off we go. The special DEA agent in charge puts me in
his car, a smallish gold colored thing. As they put me in the front seat, I
asked them, "what's with this piece of shit car?" "I thought you feds can
have any car you want - like a Mercedes or hot muscle cars that you get from
drug dealers." The special agent said, "We like to keep a low profile."

So as we were exiting and on our way, I looked at the special agent and was
quite amazed at how young he looked. I asked him, "compared to all of those
detectives and other agents, aren't you kind of young to be the leader?"
Then he looked at me and asked me to guess his age. I looked at him and
said, "31". Damn! I nailed him. He was impressed by that.

As we journeyed to the Puget Sound area, we are followed by a large dark
utility vehicle with tinted windows (fed) and we are driving pretty fast,
because the special agent in charge wanted to get me to the courthouse in
time to be processed and then sent to the much better place - the Federal
Detention Center at Seatac instead of spending overnight in the Pierce
County hell hole that is near the Tacoma Federal Courthouse (by the way, the
Tacoma Federal Courthouse has to be the most gorgeous courthouse in the USA
- an absolutely beautiful facility).

As we hit the highway linking Aberdeen to Olympia, that is cop alley. The
staters really control speeders and they are constantly giving speeding
tickets. I warned the special agent about them, and he told me that he
respects what they do, and I agreed. So lo & behold, the communications
radio linking the two fed vehicles started talking, "you got one on you,
he's going to stop you." And behind us, the blue flashing lights of a
stater was coming up fast. We pull over and the fed vehicle following us
pulls over to the side of the highway in wait (far back). The state cop
walks up to us and because he heard the radio chatter between the two fed
vehicles he leans into the window on my side, and says, "well what do we
have here?" The special agent then whips out a very impressive looking gold
badge. The stater looks back and scopes out the trailing vehicle who had
parked in wait, and my chains and then says, "you need to slow down, there
are plenty more of us (staters) out here." Off we go, and start speeding
again but with more alertness for the staters. I would warn the special
agent about certain stretches of the road where the staters would be hiding
around curves.

I think we wound up at the Seattle Federal Courthouse, but I am not sure. I
was taken to a holding cell and then led out into the courtroom. There was
the special DEA agent in charge and the assistant US attorney waiting for
me. And there was Steve, one of my employees who was arrested at a motel he
was staying in getting ready to go to San Fran on a vacation. So we were
questioned and the judge asked me what my salary was. Then I just told him
I was making somewhere around 30 grand a month. The judge and his
assistants were quite amazed at all the hubbub around us and especially with
the presence of the assistant US attorney in the courtroom. The public
defender shook my shoulder as if to tell me to not talk. I was startled but
he seemed to think things were going to work out OK. That Public Defender
was a strange man with an odd reputation. But I remember him and I would
like to meet him one day but I don't recall his name, but I know I can find
out, because it is all in the record. The Judge was a magistrate judge. He
must have already known what the score was. It was all set up. So Steve
gets a Public Defender and I don't. Then we get carted off to the F.D.C.

DIVERSION NUMBER ONE - THE GRAND JURY

In my case, when the investigators (the US attorneys office, the DEA, the US
postal service and the Olympic national park authorities) decided to go
forward, they presented their information to a Tacoma Federal Court Grand
Jury. With a Grand Jury, the jury is not presented with any evidence from
the defense, because there is no defense. It is all up to the government to
prove its' case viable. They had plenty of juicy stuff to present to the
members of the jury, including nice photos from the DEA dudes investigative
PF style grow experiment he did. I think he used the PF strain - they were
fat in the photos. I guess the government showed the jury how "unique" I
was. They definitely didn't show them that the spores and lots of different
books had been marketed for at least a quarter of a century with no legal
problems ever. I guess they were made to believe that PF was unique and the
first. It is true, PF invented the best Cubie cultivation technique in
history and pioneered spore syringes, but still, there was nothing illegal
about spores and a book. So without any information to the contrary, the
feds convinced the jury to vote for an indictment. And then a few days
later, the fed court magistrate judge signed the search warrants and off the
DEA went on their fun little excursion into the deep dark dank forbidding
rain forest domain of the evil sorcerer, Professor PF, soon to be handcuffed
and carted off to jail.

DIVERSION NUMBER TWO - TAP AND WHISPER

When the raid went down and I got out of jail and got a lawyer, we then
began the brain storming and planning for my defense. One thing I really
learned that when one isn't a lawyer, anything one might come up with
usually can be shot down by any experienced lawyer in a couple of seconds,
no matter how much one may believe in the idea. The first thing I went to
was the constitution of the USA. The fourth amendment of the US
constitution reads,

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.

It is well known that in a drug raid with a search warrant, that the cops
have to "KNOCK AND ANNOUNCE." Then, if there is no answer from within the
residence, the cops can bash the door down. This rule is violated all the
time by the police, and if the defendant complains in court, my lawyer told
me that it is very common for the police to just lie about it. The only way
one can fight a raid where there is a failure of the police to "knock and
announce," is to get testimony from one of the cops that took part in the
raid. But that is near impossible and just doesn't happen.

When I was raided by the DEA on february 18 2003, I awoke to the door being
bashed. I know that they did not "announce and knock." I even made a video
tape of the front approach to my house, the road, the parking spaces, the
front walk, the front door, the window in the top of the door, the front
window's view inside the house of the living room where I was sleeping on
the couch in full view, the side window and its view and on around to the
back of the house where the large glass sliding door is and the huge picture
windows looking out on the lake and forest. My lawyer didn't even want to
see it, because he knew it was futile. It was the DEA raiders word against
mine.

So let me describe what the video tape shows. The front of my house is
right on the road and there is a tall laurel hedge in front of most of the
house. But when one comes into the front to the front door, it is very easy
to see into the living room. At the front door is a window at the top of
the door. Any 6 foot tall person can stand on tip toe and get a clear view
of the entire living room including the couch I was sleeping on. In other
words, I was sleeping in full unobstructed view. Next, one takes a few
steps to the left and there is the front bay windows. Because of the laurel
bush, I don't leave the curtains down, I always leave them up for the
natural light that I enjoy. At those front windows, the living room is
fully revealed including the couch and anyone sleeping on it. Next, at the
front door, one goes right about 3 steps and then turns left around the
corner. There is another window with another full view of the living room
and a total frontal view of the couch and me on it. Then one continues a
few steps, walks up a couple of steps onto the back view porch deck and
before one gets to the corner of the house that faces the lake and forest,
one comes to the double glass sliding door. Again, because of the privacy
of the house situation, I never have the curtains closed, because that is
where the main natural light comes from. At that sliding glass door, one
can see the back of my head (balding) reclining on the couch, and the
stairway going up to the second floor of the house. Continuing around the
corner of the house to the back one finds a large window with a total view
of the lake and forest and likewise a total view into the living room.

The point is, is that I was on the couch in complete and easy view of anyone
that came to my house that morning of February 18. To get me up, a simple
knock at the door would have done the trip. Or, rapping on the glass window
with the edge of a coin would have got me up right off the bat, even if I
was sleeping heavy. I am not a heavy sleeper and any noticeable noise in
the house can usually awaken me. I woke up to no such knocking or rapping
at the window, but I woke up to the door being bashed. I am positive they
did not knock and announce. My lawyer said that the cops could easily just
say I didn't get up when they knocked. But I know that is total bull shit,
because I was about 12 feet from the front door, and any knocking on it
would have gotten me up.

I was talking to a lawyer with the ACLU and told her about that, and she
said that the DEA cops could always say that they suspected that I had a
weapon under the couch and that I was prepared to whip it out and kill them.
She asked me if that was actually possible and I said, "sure, I could have
had an Oozy submachine gun or M16 or AK47 under the couch hidden from view,
but I didn't." But I got her point.

So I wanted to really bring that up as part of my defense to show that the
raid was illegal and violated my constitutional rights. All of the lawyers
I talked to said to not bother, because it will be a fruitless path to go.
But then, I realized something just recently that I didn't really think
about then. I have kung fu weaponry around my house. In fact, right above
my head where I was sleeping on the couch, on the wall within easy reach,
was a metal tonfa. That is a marshall arts weapon that the cops now all
use. It is a club with a side handle and it is great for in close self
defense, defense against a knife attack and can yield a serious brain
crushing blow to any attackers head. So what I know now, is that my lawyer
was right without even knowing about that tonfa on the wall. The DEA cops
saw it and the leader just said, "BASH the door in, he's armed." And they
were right, I was armed. But, they had M16's that outgunned my feeble
little defense by miles. So in any case, I had no defense against their
failure to "knock and announce." They didn't have to knock and announce,
because I had within reach a very deadly defensive marshall arts weapon.
And I will bet any amount of money that I am right on target about that.
Case closed.

Then my next brainstorm was something that I think the ACLU and everybody
agreed with, and that was the first amendment of the US constitution and the
guarantee of freedom of speech and the right to publish.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.

It has been said by many observers of my case, that to take spores that are
not illegal, and then add a book that is protected by the first amendment
right to publish to come out as illegal or a crime, is bad math. In other
words, legal spores plus a legal book equals an illegal act. The
governments position was that I "conspired" with my customers to produce an
illegal substance - psilocin. So what that really means, was that my
teaching from my book was the "conspiracy." Even my probation officer says
that I was operating in a "gray area." But I was thinking that that is
really true, that I was teaching my customers how to break the law, but they
are the ones that were doing it and not me (excluding my illegal grow op -
but my grow op was not what I was marketing around the world). I was
teaching my customers how to produce the illegal drug psilocin, but wasn't
that their responsibility? I am the teacher, and they can do whatever they
want with the knowledge that I teach them. To blame the teacher for the
students crimes to me is not what the first amendment can allow. The
"conspiracy" charge was the heart of the governments case against me, but
they did drop it almost immediately (for a big charge - the forfeiture). I
will always believe that I was in the right and the US government did wrong,
but what can I do? I don't have the time or the money to make something out
of it, other than writing this and trying to tell the world about how the US
government violated my first amendment rights through power and bullying.

So it seemed to me, that since I live in the USA, and my business was "gray
area", it would be the job of the US government to close the "loophole" that
I was jumping through. I have always believed that the USA was a country
that gave its citizens the greatest freedom in history, but lately, I think
it's going downhill. To me, one of the real hallmarks of "freedom" is the
ability to "stretch" the rules a bit. Stretching the rules is something
that all artists do. Even the 18th century German composer Mozart's father
would complain that Wolfgang's music wasn't "quite right." What daddy
Mozart was missing, was that young Wolfgang was creating new rules. That is
art. And I would include the art of freedom also. But no, the US
government has embarked on the doctrines of "zero tolerance." And instead
of giving me the benefit of the doubt, and closing the loophole I was
jumping through (spores are not against the federal law), they just slammed
me and through the power of their bullying, they knew they could stop me the
easy way, without passing any new laws or going through a legislative
process. Closing of the "loophole" would be to make the spores federally
illegal just as the states of California, Georgia and Ohio have done.

I believe that the government knew that their case had a weakness. That is
why they offered me the plea agreement to drop count one, the "conspiracy to
distribute" (even though it cost me three properties and a couple of bank
accounts to do just that - it was expensive - but, the best "justice" money
can buy, praise the lord). In my opinion, the government knew I could put
up a good fight and possibly win, but they also knew that it would cost me
everything in legal fees and years to do it going from one court to another
all the way to the United States Supreme court. That is a slow and tedious
process, and I don't have the inclination or the time to go through it. I
want to live my life. So the government gave me a decent plea agreement,
gave me back 3 properties, 2 cars and money, went easy on my wife, dismissed
the charges on my other two codefendants, and gave me a drug felony that
will follow me the rest of my life. In my case, I could really care less.
Being a felon means nothing to me. And, the US attorney in charge of my
case, told me that all they really wanted was for me to get a felony which
could then be used to prosecute other people that would want to do what I
did. The government has their precedent. The vagueness of their law has
become tighter because they are bigger and badder than the Professor.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Anno]
    #3441028 - 12/03/04 05:01 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i'm not twisting anyone's arm,
folks are smart enough to decide for themselves
if they want to send gerald' their name and address.
also smart enough to see how odd it is that PF is a free man.
your personal attacks on me,
old news about usenet stuff from 4-5 years ago
is not really relevant,
hell
i'm not even relevant.
i'm not the one who got busted
nor am i the guy using pf's name & secret
to get rich.
maybe i'm a bit paranoid
but it keeps me out of trouble.
folks need to be cautious,
this is very serious business.
why even take the risk of sending gerald
a name and an address
when there are many other vendors who've been around longer
and have no clouds of suspicion hanging over their head.
maybe i am wrong,
but ask yourself-
are you willing to bet your literal ass on it ?


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3441048 - 12/03/04 05:28 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

>folks are smart enough to decide for themselves

I am convinced they are.

>old news about usenet stuff from 4-5 years ago
>is not really relevant,

It is VERY relevant! It shows what kind of person you are. It show what methods you use to try to make others look bad. It shows what kind of conspiracy theories you create in order to discredit others. It shows what kind of person you are Hippie. And this is VERY relevant if you want the folks to decide for themselves, and not let you make the decision for them.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Anno]
    #3441376 - 12/03/04 08:50 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i know this is (sorta) offtopic,
but thx for posting the story about pf anno,
i read it for the first time.
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3441381 - 12/03/04 08:52 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i'm not even relevant.

folks need to be cautious,
this is very serious business.

why even take the risk of sending gerald
a name and an address
when there are many other vendors who've been around longer
and have no clouds of suspicion hanging over their head.

I agree with the first two points.

But the only "Cloud of Suspicion" is the one YOU created.

You have a long and sorted past of being a trouble maker.

I agree with pretty much everything Anno said. PF lost alot. And Hippy is a shit stirrer.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: pietruk]
    #3441406 - 12/03/04 08:59 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

hippie is a baby i dont get why any one would be worried about ordering spores there legal almost everywhere


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: onetime]
    #3441485 - 12/03/04 09:35 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

"hippie is a baby i dont get why any one would be worried about ordering spores there legal almost everywhere "

i doubt you look at them under a microscope.

"It is VERY relevant! It shows what kind of person you are. It show what methods you use to try to make others look bad."

I don't try to make others look bad, only have tried to make people aware of their own safety. I do it for free, I have nothing to gain from this, Mycotopia mods do not get paid. Quite different than here...

My question is, how can he sell both spores and jars substrates together, and still claim legal microscopy purposes...? eh?

That is my concern. And don't think your sponsors haven't thought of that as well.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: suckerfree]
    #3441525 - 12/03/04 09:45 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

I have nothing to gain from this, Mycotopia mods do not get paid. Quite different than here...




hahaha if only. i was a mod here until recently and we certainly didn't get paid. also i am a good friend (irl) of one of the ex-admins who recently stepped down as well, who wrote a lot of code for this place and helped keep it running and guess what? he didn't get paid either. you're baseless assumptions show your character. the shroomery has nothing to gain by keeping mike here like you claim. you have no idea what you're talking about. you complian about him giving out personal info and here you are constantly posting his name. hypocrite :bitch:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: John]
    #3441546 - 12/03/04 09:49 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

the shroomery has nothing to gain by keeping mike here like you claim.

My character huh.... nice.

My question is, how can he sell both spores and jars substrates together, and still claim legal microscopy purposes...? eh?

My question is, how can he sell both spores and jars substrates together, and still claim legal microscopy purposes...? eh?

My question is, how can he sell both spores and jars substrates together, and still claim legal microscopy purposes...? eh?


Shroomery has nothing to gain huh..... but yet you possibly put your users in danger. So be it.

Call me what you want, i don't care.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: John]
    #3441593 - 12/03/04 10:02 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

My question is, how can he sell both spores and jars substrates together, and still claim legal microscopy purposes...? eh?




i've seen far more questionable activitys on the internet. maybe he's just an idoit, or has a good lawyer, or both. i used to live in npr and know motaman personally and if he says he's not a narc i believe him. mind you mota is a guy that was nailing his door shut when he suspected one of his friends (as in motamans friend) of being a narc. he was the first to realize what was going on and he was right about that guy. if he says mike is trustworthy then he is. you on the other hand, have a bussiness selling the samething as mike, humm kinda odd you're trying to destroy his creditablity. and your quote in my sig makes your feeling for the shroomery quite clear as well. mycotopia isn't going to rise above the shroomery no matter how many times you jack off to the thought. btw i'm not some blind shroomery follower either, check out some of my posts in WAF if you don't believe me. i have quite an opinion of a lot of how this site works that i formed from being of the staff side of the situation and seeing how things work behind the scenes somewhat here and your assumptions are rediculious. for me to take the admins side here over someone elses is a big step yet i do. hmmm.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: John]
    #3441636 - 12/03/04 10:14 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)


suck a dick dude, i'm through with you, i was polite to you until you started this jack off shit, and mycotopia rising shit. I don't care about that, and i don't have a business. i'm not hippie, and i don't care for a war b/t here and mycotopia.
you're dumbass remarks show your character.
ding ding ding

this as always, is going nowhere. so to further prevent any hostilities, i'm signing out. peace.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: onetime]
    #3441683 - 12/03/04 10:27 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

>suck a dick dude, i'm through with you

Easy now, you are not at Mycotopia.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: John]
    #3441697 - 12/03/04 10:32 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

To me selling substrate, especially premade PF jars is just a bad idea. Even more so if you sell spores too.

Not pointing fingers at anyone cuz i have no clue. Just stay safe guys, use your head. If you feel somthing is shady avoid it.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Anno]
    #3441808 - 12/03/04 10:59 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anno said:
>folks are smart enough to decide for themselves

I am convinced they are.

>old news about usenet stuff from 4-5 years ago
>is not really relevant,

It is VERY relevant! It shows what kind of person you are. It show what methods you use to try to make others look bad. It shows what kind of conspiracy theories you create in order to discredit others. It shows what kind of person you are Hippie. And this is VERY relevant if you want the folks to decide for themselves, and not let you make the decision for them.




well then,
what kind of person
is gerald for posting what he thinks is
my real name, address, high school attended,
outstanding warrants, etc.
on usenet ?
why don't y'all google that ?
you'll see your good old boy gerald doing his best to send me to jail or expose me, whatever you want to call it.
i am not a sponsor here,
but gerald is.
what about HIS character,
the methods he uses ?


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: baraka]
    #3441886 - 12/03/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

yes it might be a bad idea, but that doesn't make him a narc... it might make him not the brightest bulb in the pack, but not a narc. I'll take a well meaning person who doesn't think things fully through over a narc any day

hippie: boy who cried wolf, remember it.

Anyway, I'm just saying this from the way I see it, I have been around the OMC (at one place or another) for long enough, I have a pretty good feel for people's characters here. I do not think that mike or PF would sell us out, I would be genuinely surprised if they ever did, and very disappointed (understatement). When PF was busted, it seemed as if he took the fall, he did not narc out his staff, what would make you think he narced anyone else out?


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: gdman]
    #3441919 - 12/03/04 11:26 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

A lot of companies sell both spores and substrates.

This is not illegal.

What is illegal is selling spores or substrates along with the information on how to make the spores produce an illegal substance.

Besides, I've never sent spores and substrates in the same shipment.

Some people order spores for their research, some people order substrate for their edible/medicinal mushroom growth needs.

Anyone who says they are ordering with the intent of illegally producing banned products, I don't sell to.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3441933 - 12/03/04 11:28 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

thats good to hear


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: gdman]
    #3442157 - 12/03/04 12:20 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Just a thought, but selling edible cultures sounds like a good idea. People like those.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: gdman]
    #3442165 - 12/03/04 12:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

actuallly, selling spores with instructions is clearly not illegal. Consider
Homestead books and their GRO KIT. They are back in business. PF's
bust scared the fuck out of them and they bailed. But they are back.

PF has clearly said at MYCOTOPIA (HIPPIETOPIA) the he was busted
not because of his spore biz, but because he was informed on by a
"friend" who was busted and faced a federal charge of weed distribution.
Well,, the "friend" got out jail with a 10 dollar fine, no probation and no
drug tests - totally free.. A few weeks later, the DEA was up at PF's
house checking things out and they spend a few months preparing the
case - then the raid on FEB 18 2003.

To rat out someone, you got to know the person, where he lives, what he
does and what he's got.

HIPPIE says PF "walked". What an ass. 6 months in home detention,
a big forfeiture, loss of a pile of money and a felony. Yeah man, that's
what HIPPIE calls "walked".

I have suspected HIPPIE of being a real ass for a long time, and this
whole idiotic thing proves it.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fanaticus]
    #3442198 - 12/03/04 12:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

and I forgot to mention - 3 years federal probation for the professor.
Plus, the professor had to endure 7 1/2 months "drug treatment"
with associated two AA meetings a week. THAT REALLY HURT!!!!!

Yeah, HIPPIE you dork - the PROFESSOR "walked"

It seems, that the fact PF didn't have to do jail time
and got a bunch of stuff back (more than was forfeited), pissed
off old HIPPIE. He's the traitor, not Mike or the Professor, and those
poor saps at HIPPIETOPIA just love sucking it up.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Anno]
    #3444910 - 12/04/04 06:22 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

LOl Anno is prob a cop too ! :lol:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3444919 - 12/04/04 06:28 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

What an energy you put in blacksheeping people, go on and life your live man. Hey maybe you are the cop!? :laugh:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: suckerfree]
    #3444939 - 12/04/04 06:38 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

suckerfree said:

suck a dick dude, ..........  peace.




Sure... :laugh:

I dont get it why people fight this out on the forum of the shroomery.
It is contaminating, thought we did not like that????

Pies.. :laugh:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3445119 - 12/04/04 08:21 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3445267 - 12/04/04 09:34 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Poor lil premenopausal thang!Having hot flashes over the slow death of you lil kingdom? It's what happens when you are a haughty bitch to anyone you dissagree with. Mike is A-OK and has taken a very easily defensible position with his sales by not selling Ps. spores along with substrate and instructions.
The bitch fest over the PF formula is bogus as dispersants are not secrets but perhaps there application is beyond YOU!
Your old enough ( :lol: )to remember the Kink's song "Paranoia will destroy ya"
well your breaking down girlfriend.First you scream NARC! at the competition over and again,you basicaly steal MJShroomers work, and now your back to this NARC! again.Please bitch if you cannot handle the reality of you own complicity in all of this then you need some strong meds and a soft bed for a while and then a quiet retirement.
What you think most folks are as dumb as stones? that they take no precautions in ordering toa safe loc?...Feh! just more drek from a bitter bitch!
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3445294 - 12/04/04 09:43 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

hey, hippie, you need to get your facts straight.

Nobody knows where your house is. I didn't post your address on usenet.

YOU posted MY address on usenet.

And the fact that you are not in jail right now proves i'm not a snitch. If i were, Walker Texas Ranger would have busted through your door months ago.

And your crass assumption that i only sought this information for nefarious purposes, ie to rat you out or to blackmail you, is pure bullshit as well. You haven't been arrested, and I haven't blackmailed you, even months after i have this information.

I got that information as part of a routine investigation into Mycotopia's ownership and finances. I ordered that investigation because I plan to sue mycotopia, not to narc you out.

It was YOUR suggestion that i sue you, right after you refused to pay back the sponsor fees and donations I made to your supposedly 'non-profit' organisation.

When I donate to a non-profit organisation, I expect to see the money go to support the organisation. What I saw was, the owner of the organisation, YOU, Hippie3, Deandra, using my money to start a private business.

I gave you money to support mycotopia, not so you could go start a business. I expect to be paid back every cent I gave.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3445373 - 12/04/04 10:26 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i'm not in jail
because you have your facts wrong.
and i refunded your money with paypal as a witness.
i'd love to see you drag this into court.
you went looking for warrants so you
could rat me out if you felt the need or the desire.
the fact that is how you play the game
should be alarming to any of your customers
who give you their names and addresses.
i reckon they had better not ever say anything bad
about you, or cost you some money by asking for
a refund
because if they piss you off
you'll see to it
that they, too,
end up in a court of law.
just like you tried to do to me, snitch.
you're just too stupid to get the job done right
which is why
i'm back here to haunt your rat bastard ass
until you slink back into the sewers where
your kind belongs.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3445411 - 12/04/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hey dumb fuck! In any lawsuit a complete investigation of public records on the individual or corp is the first thing an attorney would want.Your not in jail because you are so not worth the effort, plus the way you scream out personal info your more use free to LE (want the dirties on some one just let them be on Hippie's shit list)So another paranoid fantasy is dispelled for Hippie,poor Hippie. Must be miserable being so scared and weak.Must be hell seeing yourself slowly push yourself out of relevence.
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3445418 - 12/04/04 10:45 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

"What is illegal is selling spores or substrates along with the information on how to make the spores produce an illegal substance.

Besides, I've never sent spores and substrates in the same shipment.

Some people order spores for their research, some people order substrate for their edible/medicinal mushroom growth needs. " says MikeO

It's still very odd that you sell pre-packed jars ready to go, and spores.... all being psychoactive.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3445423 - 12/04/04 10:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Oh my.... name calling? Is that where we've progressed to.

Reality check, hippie-

There was no blackmail.
Nobody got ratted out.
You did not go to jail.

All of your silly accusations are false.

You called me a liar when I said I had the Professors formula, right up to the day you found out it was true.

You call me a snitch and a rat, but nobody's been snitched on, nobody's been arrested, and nobody is in jail. Wrong again.

You yourself say that giving a persons true information on the net is an unforgivable crime, even after you posted my real name, my grandfather's address, a photograph of my grandfather's house taken from his driveway, a sattelite pic of my house, and now I read on your site there's even a picture of me going around.

You say that people should be afraid to give me their address, because I posted which high school you went to and that there are warrants on you. Shouldn't they be afraid to give YOU their address, since you post names and addresses and pictures of people when they piss you off?

People came to my grandfather's house, left handprints on his window, went through his garbage, threatened to shoot my dog, took pictures to put on the internet, and vandalized his car... These were people sent by YOU hippie, people who meant me and my family harm.

When you posted that information, you endangered people who are not even involved in this, yet you did so repeatedly and unapologetically, even after I emailed you that you had the wrong house.

You say its dangerous to give me an address? I say its DEADLY to give hippie3 an address, unless you want hippie's minions crawling all over your property at all hours of the night trying to intimidate you and damaging your property.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3445578 - 12/04/04 11:57 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

OMG, no I am not gonna put my energy in this I think. Just wondering why people get this into public and discuss these thing amongst each other.

The blaming etc contaminating persons without having evidence etc etc


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3445583 - 12/04/04 11:59 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Let's cut through the semantical bullshit and look at what we know as truth:

1) PF gets busted by the feds after a 3 year investigation into his business proceedings.

2) PF is caught with a functional, operational shroom grow-op in one of his houses and various marijuanna and related paraphenalia in another.

3) The shroom Op alone is an easy felony rap, not to mention the immense hard-on the feds have obviously had for him for some time... PF had a link to a federal website from his website, showing how the federales successfully grew shrooms using PF syringes and jars made according to PF specs. His comments were "even the DEA can grow shrooms using my spores."

4) In a miraculous deviation from standard legal proceedings, PF is allowed to bypass the usual absorption of his properties and monies by the government and never serves extended jail-time. He gets fined, receives six months house arrest, is forced to stay sober during this time, and has some extended probation. Small time considering the duration of the investigation and the nature of the "crime."

5) After a six month hiatus, PF returns to the message boards, praising his lawyer and mentioning in several threads that the Feds are actively monitoring the OMC, the shroomery, and mycotopia. According to PF himself, the feds mentioned Hippie3 by name.

6) After failing to reestablish his credibility or overall likeability at mycotopia, Billy(you know who) a.k.a. PF, decides to leave the OMC and pursue different horizons.

7) During this most recent hiatus, PF claims that he has passed his trade secrets over to a vendor of already questionable credibility - for no more than a guitar and a kindly worded "please" (again, this is from PF - straight fact if you believe the source). This despite several absolute rejections by PF for said information, in which he said he would "die with his secret."

8) This vendor recently begins selling both spores and PF jars, using both the PF name and his current / ongoing ties to PF, who was busted by the feds a short time ago

9) Knowing that the feds monitor these boards, knowing that PF and spores are bound to be a federal magnet, knowing that Mike O has attempted to make private info public, knowing that this same individual is selling a potential felony in a box, especially considering the PF connection, how can you, in good conscience, suggest that your members give their personal information to Mike O?

Contrary to what is said at other forums, the members and mods at mycotopia aren't hippie3 yes-men. Whether or not PF and / or Mike are actual federal narcs is irrelevant - the point is that both of them lack common sense and good judgement, something you want from a vendor of grey-area mycological supplies. Arguing over who is a bigger asshole, Mike or Hippie is also irrelevant. Hippie isn't pimping spores together with syringes with the PF name on them - and I'm sorry, but I'm not taking "what is and is not legal" advice from anyone who's been busted for growing shrooms in his own house while pimping a spore business in a nationwide drug magazine. If PF had such a handle on the legality of spores, he'd still be selling them.

Sheesh...

Common sense should tell you that this is all a very bad idea and potentially destructive for a number of reasons. I'd like to think that every shroomery member has a safe addy set up, but the reality is that most probably don't. It's not even needed if you're ordering legal supplies from reputable vendors...

If you knew a guy who was growing weed, got busted, got off with a slap on the wrist (relative to the usual punishment), then set up a friend in a similar yet more controversial business practice, would you tell your friends and supporters to go buy weed from the new kid?

That is, effectively, what you are doing by allowing Mike O to continue as a sponsor. If you think Hippie's a noisy son-of-a-bitch then fine - everyone's entitled to their opinion. Forget about your or Hippie's history and look at what we know to be fact, then let your conscience and common sense be the guide.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Soliver]
    #3445820 - 12/04/04 01:19 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
? ? ? #3445583 - 12/04/04 11:59 AM
Edit? Reply ? Quote ? Quick Reply ?

SOLIVERS bull shit answered by someone who knows more about PF than
he ever will.

Let's cut through the semantical bullshit and look at what we know as truth:

---OK you want the truth, then lets do it. Thanks to the SHROOMERY we don't have the HIPPIE bitch to censor this.

1) PF gets busted by the feds after a 3 year investigation into his business proceedings.

-----incorrect PF has been looked at ever since PF's ad was put into HIGH TIMES.

2) PF is caught with a functional, operational shroom grow-op in one of his houses and various marijuanna and related paraphenalia in another.

-----true - but it was tiny - that is why the feds went "easy" on me.

3) The shroom Op alone is an easy felony rap, not to mention the immense hard-on the feds have obviously had for him for some time... PF had a link to a federal website from his website, showing how the federales successfully grew shrooms using PF syringes and jars made according to PF specs. His comments were "even the DEA can grow shrooms using my spores."

-----wrong again. I had no "link" to a federal website.
It was a published paper from the FBI and I made this quote very clear -

----"This project was supported by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Minneapolis Field Office.
Received 26 Feb. 1999: and in revised form 12 May 1999: accepted 23 Aug. 1999. "

next - the good one
------- The spores used in this experiment were obtained legally through an advertisement in High Times Magazine from PSYLOCYBE FANATICUS (PF TEK Seattle, WA). The spores were received in 10 mL syringes in an aqueous solution. The spore solutions were each viewed using a 1250X-magnification microscope.

Did you get that? LEGALLY LEGALLY LEGALLY LEGALLY

4) In a miraculous deviation from standard legal proceedings, PF is allowed to bypass the usual absorption of his properties and monies by the government and never serves extended jail-time. He gets fined, receives six months house arrest, is forced to stay sober during this time, and has some extended probation. Small time considering the duration of the investigation and the nature of the "crime."

---- FUCK YOU There was no "miraculous deviation". It got fucked to say
the least. What "crime". They got 11.4 grams of dried shrooms from
a waste basket. I was convicted on count two - MANUFACTURING PSILOCIN
(AKA growing some shrooms)


5) After a six month hiatus, PF returns to the message boards, praising his lawyer and mentioning in several threads that the Feds are actively monitoring the OMC, the shroomery, and mycotopia. According to PF himself, the feds mentioned Hippie3 by name.

---- WRONG you ass wipe. THE FEDS told me they monitor all the web sites.
THEY never mentioned HIPPIE ass to me. And if you don't think the FEDS
watch the internet and all the web sites, that figures, because you are just
to stupid.

6) After failing to reestablish his credibility or overall likeability at mycotopia, Billy(you know who) a.k.a. PF, decides to leave the OMC and pursue different horizons.

----- only to people like you. I don't give a rats ass about my "likeability".
You don't know me and never will. I have a life outside being a dork ass
no nothing OMC idiot like yourself.

7) During this most recent hiatus, PF claims that he has passed his trade secrets over to a vendor of already questionable credibility - for no more than a guitar and a kindly worded "please" (again, this is from PF - straight fact if you believe the source). This despite several absolute rejections by PF for said information, in which he said he would "die with his secret."

----- true but as far as the vendor of "questionable credibility" -- speak
for yourself. Mike is liked around here.

8) This vendor recently begins selling both spores and PF jars, using both the PF name and his current / ongoing ties to PF, who was busted by the feds a short time ago

----- So what? Is he using my old website FANTICUS.COM? That was me.

9) Knowing that the feds monitor these boards, knowing that PF and spores are bound to be a federal magnet, knowing that Mike O has attempted to make private info public, knowing that this same individual is selling a potential felony in a box, especially considering the PF connection, how can you, in good conscience, suggest that your members give their personal information to Mike O?
Contrary to what is said at other forums, the members and mods at mycotopia aren't hippie3 yes-men. Whether or not PF and / or Mike are actual federal narcs is irrelevant - the point is that both of them lack common sense and good judgement, something you want from a vendor of grey-area mycological supplies. Arguing over who is a bigger asshole, Mike or Hippie is also irrelevant. Hippie isn't pimping spores together with syringes with the PF name on them - and I'm sorry, but I'm not taking "what is and is not legal" advice from anyone who's been busted for growing shrooms in his own house while pimping a spore business in a nationwide drug magazine. If PF had such a handle on the legality of spores, he'd still be selling them.

---- wrong again. PFjars.com is not my name.
"PF and spores are bound to be a federal magnet"? Not any more.
That's all over. I told you that I was busted because a friend ratted
me out. He knows me, what I do, what I have and can describe it.
His rat out on me, got him off big time.
So I lack common sense and good judgement? Hey dude - in my case,
crime actually paid. I am better off now than I would have been if I would
have Never ventured into the Spore biz. I have the American dream and
before I started PF, I rented an apartment and slugged it out on
Seattle music stages playing my axes.. Now I am free of that and I still
Play, I got a gig tonight in Aberdeen and I am playing a nice concert
on sunday with the Grays Harbor Symphony at BISHOP CENTER on the
GHCC campus. I got a life. I don't need no so called OMC.

If you want to see one of my lives - check me out.
http://www.seanet.com/~rwmcpherson/music

Sheesh...
Common sense should tell you that this is all a very bad idea and potentially destructive for a number of reasons. I'd like to think that every shroomery member has a safe addy set up, but the reality is that most probably don't. It's not even needed if you're ordering legal supplies from reputable vendors...
If you knew a guy who was growing weed, got busted, got off with a slap on the wrist (relative to the usual punishment), then set up a friend in a similar yet more controversial business practice, would you tell your friends and supporters to go buy weed from the new kid?
That is, effectively, what you are doing by allowing Mike O to continue as a sponsor. If you think Hippie's a noisy son-of-a-bitch then fine - everyone's entitled to their opinion. Forget about your or Hippie's history and look at what we know to be fact, then let your conscience and common sense be the guide.

---- well, you have shown that you don't know the "fact". So shut up and go
back to HIPPIETOPIA and talk.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fanaticus]
    #3445887 - 12/04/04 01:34 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

yea i was suppost to get 2 long time ago. no worries just addign to the point that they must have gotten taken at customs.

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    #3446081 - 12/04/04 02:41 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well, it's good to see that you're up for showing the true facts,
not just seeding a valid post with childish name calling and
self promoting links.

"I got a life. I don't need no so called OMC."

Funny when you think that the OMC gave you the American dream you
mention so fervently. Whether or not you're a snitch, I'm glad we
won't have to put up with your ignorant lip back at hippietopia (lol).
When you get around to finally ditching the OMC like you've been talking
about for over a year now, you may look into picking up a grammar check,
maybe a thesaurus, so you'll be able to sound like a normal person while
playing all your glamorous gigs on college campuses.

As for the Feds mentioning Hippie - you said several times, once in your
LAST post at the 'topia that the feds mentioned Hip. Funny how your
memory gets muddled when talking about your bedmates...

I don't think you'll ever leave the OMC you seem to look down upon so much.
I may be an OMC "no-nothing" but at least I have respect here as well as
in my personal life. All you've got is a load of sycophants trolling
for the memory of a burn-out that got busted selling shroom spores.

If you think the feds are done watching you, then perhaps you'd better
check yourself.
Good luck at your show in Aberdeen.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Soliver]
    #3446093 - 12/04/04 02:42 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

At this point Im not sure who to believe fully, but what Hippie did with Mike's personal info sounds pretty lame. Defintely the wrong action was taken in that situation.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: ninsega]
    #3446474 - 12/04/04 04:46 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i never posted gerald's info-
the guy's so stupid he posted it himself.
some one, not me, checked the WHOIS info
on pfjars.com AFTER gerald was already trying
to take me down & noticed that gerald had given
his real name and address.
that guy just mentioned that fact,
everyone could do the same as he did and see gerald's info.
i never posted it,
just another of gerald's lies.
and no one ever said mycotopia was a non-profit charity like he claims.
further the 'donation' he sent,
that he feels entitled him to rat me out,
was 1 case of his plain brf jars.
the jars were his 'buy-in' to advertize at 'topia,
what's the cash value there ?
the other money was fully refunded via paypal
so all of this mess, started by gerald,
was just nonsense.
he didn't like the competition i posed
so he decided to take me out.
just like he's been trying to do to boxtop.
he says he's going to sue me over a case of jars ?
come on, folks, use your own senses.
it'd cost more to file, win & collect than his donation,
that's just a smoke screen for his actions.
here we are 6 months later,
why haven't you sued me gerald if that is
why you did a background check ?
what's taking so long ?

now consider the legal situation of someone doing business
with gerald.
if he sells you spores and some substrate,
since he has your name & address too,
he has in his hands
all the evidence needed for a probable cause
search warrant to be executed on your house.
intent to manufacture a controlled substance,
and all the proof needed in gerald's hands.
THAT's why he's selling BOTH spores AND substrate,
it's a trap to get the goods on the customers.
then comes the blackmail, extortion.
better shut up or he'll send the cops by,
better pay up or he'll have you be raided.
better do as he says
or he'll send you to jail.
he'll have each and every customer
by the balls.

we've got folks now over at 'topia
who would love to come forward and speak on this issue
but they cannot
because gerald has their info
so they dare not,
they can't afford the bust that follows.
can you ?


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: ninsega]
    #3446487 - 12/04/04 04:48 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

ninsega said:
At this point Im not sure who to believe fully, but what Hippie did with Mike's personal info sounds pretty lame. Defintely the wrong action was taken in that situation.




show me where i posted gerald's info.

but here's just one example
of gerald posting mine-
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mycoto...net&rnum=20

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3446546 - 12/04/04 04:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

fanaticus said
" I told you that I was busted because a friend ratted
me out. He knows me, what I do, what I have and can describe it.
His rat out on me, got him off big time."

kinda funny pf
how you have never once
mentioned the name
of the fellow who
you say ratted you out.
why is that ?
could it be because
if you gave a name
folks could check your story out
to see if that fellow really existed
and was arrested as you claim ?
what's the name of the rat, pf ?
are you going to protect the privacy
of the guy you say did all this to you ?
what's his name ?


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3446556 - 12/04/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

hippie, you lie so much you don't know what the truth is. this is from your site, board rules and historic threads, thread called 'rules of conduct, defining mycotopia'

>>"Is this going to cost me anything?"
>>
>>No, membership is free. Mycotopia is a non-commercial not-for->>profit
>>organization relying entirely on voluntary donations from >>interested parties.

I gave cash, and i gave merchandise totalling well over $1000 in retail value (including 50 spore prints).

These gifts were given to mycotopia in good faith under the assumption that what was printed in Board Rules was true.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3446558 - 12/04/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Hippie3 said:
i'm not in jail
because you have your facts wrong.
and i refunded your money with paypal as a witness.
i'd love to see you drag this into court.
you went looking for warrants so you
could rat me out if you felt the need or the desire.
the fact that is how you play the game
should be alarming to any of your customers
who give you their names and addresses.
i reckon they had better not ever say anything bad
about you, or cost you some money by asking for
a refund
because if they piss you off
you'll see to it
that they, too,
end up in a court of law.
just like you tried to do to me, snitch.
you're just too stupid to get the job done right
which is why
i'm back here to haunt your rat bastard ass
until you slink back into the sewers where
your kind belongs.




name calling? real mature hippie  :handth:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3446571 - 12/04/04 05:05 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Hippie3 said:
Quote:

ninsega said:
At this point Im not sure who to believe fully, but what Hippie did with Mike's personal info sounds pretty lame. Defintely the wrong action was taken in that situation.




show me where i posted gerald's info.

but here's just one example
of gerald posting mine-
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mycoto...net&rnum=20

there are many more such
by gerald on ADM usenet,
run a search on him & see for yourself.




It can't be shown because you deleted it. I saw it, and I saw a message that you posted saying that you had my info, and anyone who wanted it could email you and get it.

Of course, you will deny that ever happened, because that is what you do, delete and deny.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3446641 - 12/04/04 05:24 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Ridiculous Hippie, childish & ridiculous.  :shake:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3446701 - 12/04/04 05:40 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MikeOLogical said:
hippie, you lie so much you don't know what the truth is. this is from your site, board rules and historic threads, thread called 'rules of conduct, defining mycotopia'

>>"Is this going to cost me anything?"
>>
>>No, membership is free. Mycotopia is a non-commercial not-for->>profit
>>organization relying entirely on voluntary donations from >>interested parties.

I gave cash, and i gave merchandise totalling well over $1000 in retail value (including 50 spore prints).

These gifts were given to mycotopia in good faith under the assumption that what was printed in Board Rules was true.




first of all
you just are a flat-out liar,
you never sent 50 prints.
not $1000 in donations either.

second,
if you had really consulted a lawyer
he'd have told you
that not-for-profit is not the same
as non-profit.
a not-for-profit organisation can earn a legal profit,
it's just not the aim of it.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3446708 - 12/04/04 05:42 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Mike-O-Logical is a humanitarian, not a liar.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3446747 - 12/04/04 05:50 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MikeOLogical said:
Quote:

Hippie3 said:
Quote:

ninsega said:
At this point Im not sure who to believe fully, but what Hippie did with Mike's personal info sounds pretty lame. Defintely the wrong action was taken in that situation.




show me where i posted gerald's info.

but here's just one example
of gerald posting mine-
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mycoto...net&rnum=20

there are many more such
by gerald on ADM usenet,
run a search on him & see for yourself.




It can't be shown because you deleted it. I saw it, and I saw a message that you posted saying that you had my info, and anyone who wanted it could email you and get it.

Of course, you will deny that ever happened, because that is what you do, delete and deny.




where's the screen shot ?
you'd have a screen shot if that was true,
just like you have for the entire fanaticus chronicles
on your website now.
you are lying yet again.
but it matters not,
i'm not the one in question here.
you are.
you have been shown clearly
to be, at best, a lying idiot with bad intent.
at worst, a lying idiot with a badge.
either way,
it doesn't look good for you.
you know,
it's not like
i'm the only person who thinks this.
you guys keep trying to make this
into a one man thing,
hippie3 all by himself
crying wolf yet again,
just ignore him.
but
it's not just me.
i didn't start any of the threads here running on you.
the people here did.
you've got more problems than me, bucky.
plenty of folks know the score,
and word travels fast.
people figure
better safe than sorry
so why take a chance ?
i bet the guys running their mouths here
in your behalf
aren't even customers of yours,
one would hope at least that people like
whiterasta or forty-two-ounces-of-freedom
don't get theirs spores & jars pre-made,
they claim to be pros.
they are just sticking up for you
because they hate me.
whiterasta always rises to the bait
every time i post here,
no matter what the subject.
he's just doing his thing,
but i bet he won't be sending you
his address any time soon.
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3446792 - 12/04/04 05:57 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I sense you have some deep-routed jealousy problems with Mike-O-Logical, but you got 1 thing right:
Quote:

they are just sticking up for you because they hate me.



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    #3446797 - 12/04/04 05:58 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3446822 - 12/04/04 06:01 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Yea right, everybody hates poor misunderstood hippie3...

Tell me hippie, is mycotopia REALLY registered as a not-for-profit corporation, or is that just another lie?

As for screen shots, there are no screen shots, there's no proof, like any liar you scream that theres no proof because you know you erased it all... yet you did release that information on me, and anyone on your site who saw it knows you're full of shiit right now.

you told the whole world that I'm a snitch, with not a shred of evidence to back you up, and you have the gall to sit there and demand proof that you said this or that?

You really are some piece of work.


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    #3446825 - 12/04/04 06:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

No need for one gremlin posts blunt.. this thread needs to stay on track between them 2.. this is your first warning


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    #3446901 - 12/04/04 06:17 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

i'm not the one in question here.
you are.






When you start flinging harsh accusations based on flimsy evidence you are very much in question.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3446925 - 12/04/04 06:21 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

People came to my grandfather's house, left handprints on his window, went through his garbage, threatened to shoot my dog, took pictures to put on the internet, and vandalized his car... These were people sent by YOU hippie, people who meant me and my family harm.





If it were me, and I were present when that happened, I would have shot someone on the spot right then.

Dead.


Dead.


Dead.


edit:

If I were not there, the first thing I would have done would be to call the cops the moment I found out about it, and make sure they get fingerprints.



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    #3446948 - 12/04/04 06:25 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

:yesnod:  :laser: I agree.


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    #3447025 - 12/04/04 06:40 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Damn right.  First thing I did after that happened was go out and buy a gun.  I'm getting pretty good with it too... I'm entering a bullseye competition the day after Christmas :laugh:


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    #3447326 - 12/04/04 07:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe WR can give you a few pointers on how to deal with motherfuckers punkin' around in your yard.

WR: :wink: :yesnod:


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    #3447589 - 12/04/04 08:54 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

.480 ruger superblackhawk directed securely under the chin of the offending individual does seem to work BH  :wink: :lol:
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    #3447683 - 12/04/04 09:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

In all fairness though, I feel I should say that of all the shit to come out of hippie's proverbial mouth, I would feel a little sketchy about dealing with anybody that sold `psybe spores (for miscroscopy use) and pre-made substrate jars (for cultivation use) from the same website.


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    #3447857 - 12/04/04 09:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Baby_Hitler said:
In all fairness though, I feel I should say that of all the shit to come out of hippie's proverbial mouth, I would feel a little sketchy about dealing with anybody that sold `psybe spores (for miscroscopy use) and pre-made substrate jars (for cultivation use) from the same website.




no shit.
esp. if they are being sold
under the pf name.
why is pf even here ?
why is this guy who's still on paper
coming back here to promote
gerald as his successor ?
why does pf want people to know
that he gave gerald his 'secret'?
why does pf let gerald use the pf name ?
pf's a fool if he thinks the feds
have such short memories
as to have alreadfy forgotten him.
i don't think pf's a fool.
yet here he is, again.
why is that ?
and who's the guy that supposedly turned in pf ?
why hasn't pf ever said who ratted him out ?
i'll tell you quick who ratted me out-
it was gerald aka mikeological.
but i bet pf won't tell
because if he gives a name
we can check his story out.
you guys must be smokin' some damn good shit
if you think the feds are oblivious to the fact
that pf is back on the scene
and back in business with gerald.
selling spores and substrate.
why should anyone even get close to
a business being run by a guy like gerald
backed by a convict still on paper like pf
is beyind me.
you guys must just want to go down,
that's all i can figure.
hand him the evidence,
buy spores and substrate & give him your name & address
because these days
the only way to get out of federal custody early
is by turning somebody in.
and pf wants out soonest.


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    #3447888 - 12/04/04 10:07 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Now that was a rant,
why do you type
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    #3447923 - 12/04/04 10:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

this is starting to sound a bit repetitive.

:drama: :drama: :drama: :drama: :drama:


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    #3447928 - 12/04/04 10:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Personally, I see "PF" as a cultivation style rather than a proprietary brand name.

Considering the Professor's past, if I were him I probably wouldn't feel up to defending any trademark infringements.

A PF jar is a jar of brown rice flour and vermiculite. Anyone should be able to use the name to describe the product. People don't pay money to the family of Rudolf Diesel for use of the term "Diesel" to describe diesel fuel, or diesel engines.


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    #3448462 - 12/05/04 12:25 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I think you are all cops !!!! :stoned:

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    #3448938 - 12/05/04 04:28 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:
yeah once paranoid no-one can be trusted, I say: "Trust and Feel" and TRUST your FEELINGS then you cant be lured.

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    #3448946 - 12/05/04 04:40 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well said Baby Hitler. PF is a name that is now
a standard in the magic shroom world.

When someone says "PF syringe" that is
just the PF classic strain. Then there is
a B+ syringe or Hawaiian syringe ect ect.

PF jars are a standard forever. That doesn't
mean I am selling them, it is just what they
are historically.

as far as me telling you who ratted on PF,
what kind of goofy bull shit is that? am I
supposed to proove that so you can be
certain?

Who knows, maybe shortly there will be a big
roundup of all of you conspirators with your
websites promoting illegal drug usage (psilocybin)
and paraphernalia (spore syringes). That would be funny
as shit!

My deal is done. I am clean and have nothing
at my house that is related to all of this. I am just
expressing my constitutional rights to speak out,
especially when some know nothing moron accuses
me of being a narc and working for the feds. I bet the
feds who are reading this are laughing at what a bunch
of bull shit that is.

I bet there are DEA people that are members here and
at MYCOTOPIA. In fact, I know it is true. I bet the DEA
probably got one of CHICKIES spam emails about how
I work for the DEA now. I am not afraid to express my
opinions because if the DEA came to my house again,
they will find nothing illegal here, and that is why I talk
to defend myself against false accusations. I am proud
of my accomplishments. In all of history, there is no
Shaman who has turned the world on to the magic
entheogen experience like I have. And it continues.
And that is called the PF TEk. The PF TEK will
rule even though I am through with it all. Is that
illegal for me to say? The DEA knows that the PF TEK
is a new and effective cultivation tek and the
FIRST ammendment protects it, because all it is
is a teaching. THE DEA did the PF TEK as well as
the FBI. I got convicted of growing a few shrooms. But,
the FEDS did want to take me down, because I was the
first and the best. Now I am history, but I leave a
legacy that I am proud of and that is no crime. And that
is exactly what I am doing here, rapping. I am just
protecting my legacy from vile lies such as CHICKIES
spamming the so called OMC with insane horse shit
about me working for the FEDS.

So I am not worried at all, because I have no drugs here
or shrooms or any connection to anyone that is in the
spore biz. I am doing my probation perfectly, taking
my drug tests and living. As far as PFjars.com, what
does that have to do with me? I am not PFjars.com
even though my old name is used. PF jars
are what everybody does now - verm and brown rice
powder in a little jar. That is my teaching, and not
me. I am not selling spore
syringes, or getting money or even communicating
with spore vendors. The feds can check my phone,
computers, bank account and anything they want,
but they know damn well I am through with it all.
But they didn't instruct me to keep my mouth
shut. So what CRIME am I committing mister
know it all chickie man?

The PF TEk said it all already. And it continues to
turn people on to the magic which has made the
PROFESSOR the most effective SHAMAN the
world has ever known. It is like the words of JESUS.
He is long dead, but his words rule the
spiritual dimension of mankind. Like me, long dead
but my teaching of the PF TEK is unparralled
in the history of the magic shrooms. And that history
goes back thousands of years. That is what I told the
judge at my sentencing hearing and he found it to be
interesting and he didn't slam me for insulting the
court.. So I am protecting my
legacy against the slander of know nothing
wannabees that are trying to do the impossible
like become PF again.

It is you that is now in the spotlight, and
maybe you aren't that safe anymore.

And I played a good gig tonight especially when I
hit that long glissando wail on my clarinet at the end of
Begin the Beguine, the masterpiece by
ARTIE SHAW. I got nothing but congratulations
from my fellow musicians and audience members.

So check out my musical credentials. I am a professional.

http://www.seanet.com/~rwmcpherson/music

Did you check out the photo of me with the US AIR FORCE
band (1967). I had a top secret security clearance because
I played at the White House - L.B. Johnson president
of the good old USA. And I am still at it even without
the hair.

THE PROFESSOR

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fanaticus]
    #3448971 - 12/05/04 05:14 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

"as far as me telling you who ratted on PF,
what kind of goofy bull shit is that? am I
supposed to proove that so you can be
certain?"


see ?
i told you pf couldn't give the name of the guy
he claims set him up.
it's an easy thing to do,
just a name.
why protect the rat who narced on you, pf ?
yeah,
you are supposed to prove shit
so we can be certain.
because you ain't supposed to be here,
you should be in jail
but yet
here you are.
i don't think
anyone ratted you out
like you claim.
i think the feds caught your ass
fair and square and dirty
growing in your own damn house.
i think they have you
by the short and curlies
and they made you their bitch.
and now you've made
gerald your bitch
and you're back to do the job
they sent you to do.
you've told us so many lies,
so has gerald.
the more i see the two of you together
the more it all makes sense.
one hand washes the other eh ?

and again with the threats against me,
the hints
that i'm still the next target
like you just said
"shortly there will be a big
roundup of all of you conspirators with your
websites promoting illegal drug usage (psilocybin)
and paraphernalia (spore syringes). That would be funny
as shit! "

i think you just told everybody
how you stand.
misery loves company eh ?
burn in hell,
your legacy is trash.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3448990 - 12/05/04 05:52 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't cut it with me....

Someone gets caught with whatever and they're facing time in the slammer, and the feds say to them,

'we'll let you off if you set up a bogus shroom company with someone, and give us the names and addresses of everyone who buys stuff off you'

Or

'We'll cut your sentence if you become our informer, working closely with one of our agents Mike'o'Sporeical'


C'mon, this isn't fucking Hollywood

Not to say that there is bogus companies set up to entrap, but the logic you have come to these conclusions with seems a little obtuse.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3448991 - 12/05/04 05:53 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

ey hip its enug of bashing and flaming ppl isnt it?
i mean hell this nothing but childish!
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: ohmatic]
    #3449012 - 12/05/04 06:18 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

stick 'n stones, ya know ?
don't try to control me,
i can barely control myself.
that's a joke,
don't be so serious.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #3449014 - 12/05/04 06:20 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

DreaMaTrix said:
It doesn't cut it with me....

Someone gets caught with whatever and they're facing time in the slammer, and the feds say to them,

'we'll let you off if you set up a bogus shroom company with someone, and give us the names and addresses of everyone who buys stuff off you'

Or

'We'll cut your sentence if you become our informer, working closely with one of our agents Mike'o'Sporeical'


C'mon, this isn't fucking Hollywood

Not to say that there is bogus companies set up to entrap, but the logic you have come to these conclusions with seems a little obtuse.




the guy who got busted
isn't just a 'somebody'
it's the mushroom man himself,
the biggest target the feds have taken down
in years.
you don't think it's remotely possible that
the feds might just have enough brains
to seize the potential offerd
by pf rolling over ?
gimme a break....


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3449085 - 12/05/04 07:39 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I don't get it... what interest would the feds have in distributing spore?

If what you say is true dippy, then people would have already been busted.

The spore I sent out a year ago haas been so well desseminated, how am I supposed to figure out where they ended up?

Your whole conspiracy theory makes no sense at all.

Ok, heres a good one-

The dea has created a new, mushroom spore sized listening device...

so the diabolical plan is, give away hundreds of prints and syringes, then I can spy on anyone at will!!! hahaha!!!

gimme a break dippy.

You can be sure that no cop is going to get permission from his superiors to give away spores, not without strict controls and swift action to make sure that the 'dangerous drug' doesn't get into the hands of the public.

hippy wants you all to believe that the cops are going to help you grow and let you grow for months and then bust you for it... what a joke!


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3449174 - 12/05/04 08:39 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe the government is distributing genetically engineered cubensis spores so that when you eat them they make you conservative.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3449254 - 12/05/04 09:12 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

most the time in wa state if your cought growing you dont do prison time i spent about 45minutes in jail never in a cell just cuffed to a chair then got off with a 150$ fine and then a buddy of mine was busted too with 1lb of weed and 1/2gram coke and 20 grams of shrooms and only did time for the 1/2 gram of coke and they never even reported any of the other drugs most the time people with frist time offences get off its not till the 3rd time people usely get hit hard but i have only known two poeple that got busted with shrooms


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3449540 - 12/05/04 10:26 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

i can barely control myself.
 



:lol: on that we agree my generic human detritus.In fact I do believe you are having a mental breakdown of sorts.Ah well perhaps the mushroom has been a bit rough on you. It is a spirit teacher and you are a poor student.Do I detect spiritual detention?Get a real life and let PF live his,Forget being "the man" of the "OMC" and slink back to your fifedom of mycodopia...Please. Your presence here is neither productive nor helpful and is usually on the attack so go home child we all is big kids here and we don't need a hysterical premenopausal fearmonger to keep us "safe" :lol:
PS. You said something to the effect that me and 42oz were "pros". I am sorry you are wrong I am a scientist foremost(chemistry) and gourmet mushroom grower for an interesting hobby. Boy I sure enjoy looking at spores in my microscope and growing pleurotus,hericium,agaricus,etc. I am glad that Ps species are so good for learning characteristics of spores in general they have helped me learn a great deal about germination techniques for my edibles.
It is also a nice thing to have someone who can provide informational spore solutions for learning spore microscopy but also provides substrate for growing MANY different edible and medicinal fungi.It is ideal for someone who cannot make substrate of there own for whatever reason and is nothing more than flour and verm so is completely legal and handy for the inexperienced gourmet who would like to grow their own delicious fungi.
Peace in hell,
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: whiterasta]
    #3449597 - 12/05/04 10:46 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Give the name of my rat so you can
check it out? You can't if you wanted
to because that information is closed
to you and me both.

Case informants are guaranteed anonimity.

Now how do I know? I know because he
was a good friend. The feds didn't tell
me his name, I already know it.

And why would any of that make ME a
narc? Chickee's got the brain of a DODO bird
and he will go extinct likewise.

Chickee is like one of those all night
barking dogs, never gets tired of the
same old bark.

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3450294 - 12/05/04 02:04 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hippie,

If you are right... thanks.

But, if you are wrong, I see no reason for ANY sponsor to have faith in you in the future. If you don't protect your sponsors, why on Earth should they support you? If you are wrong this time Hippie, I'd start preparing for a sponsor boycott of Mycotopia.

I hope you realize, without little things like EVIDENCE or PROOF, chances are you are CRYING WOLF yet again.

If you actually had hard EVIDENCE or PROOF, this PARANOID community would get behind you... but you have NONE.

Let me show you what you have done:
Hippie, remember last year when the cops showed up because you were MAILED some POT? Did you snitch? Are you a narc?

I knew you'd say "No, I'm no narc," Hippie, but I still suspect you... and now, I am going to TELL THE WHOLE OMC... even though I have NO PROOF or HARD EVIDENCE, YOU ARE A NARC, but I'm just going on a hunch.

How 'bout mjshroomer and Ythan? Narcs? You said they were once, WITHOUT PROOF, what do you think of them now? Hell, Ythan is allowing THIS discussion. Is he a narc?

I'd rather take my chances with the cops and feds than with you Hippie. At least narcs believe you are INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY.

See my problem?

With all due respect,
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3450303 - 12/05/04 02:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

LOl Hippie may I quote you: "suck dick" "peace" "burn in hell" hmmzz

Even if this man is a Fed and he doesnt admit, what are you doing? Why dont you go to the nearest police station and throw eggs and tomatoes there instead?

You need peace warhead!

The best,
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Rose]
    #3450327 - 12/05/04 02:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said:
Hippie, remember last year when the cops showed up because you were MAILED some POT? Did you snitch? Are you a narc?





Wasn't that nanook? Or did it happen to both?


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #3450329 - 12/05/04 02:13 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

In the end who is to blame for this crap? Stupid US government is. Indeed with their tricks, stupid laws that one cannot grow nature. One can buy guns, one can export war to Iraq, one can DESTROY nature, but the one who grows nature and eats of it (in his own home!) is fucked. Spreading paranoia. Yuk. Pseudo buying/selling.

So instead of fighting with each other find tactics to fight the feds. Organise that those sucking laws are gonna change or whatever.
Fighting feds is not yelling at them and namecalling over internet. If you think you found one.
It wont work for you Hippy.

And before you put someone in bad light like Hippie is doing with Fanaticus you must be VERY sure that you are right. And the ghosts in your head are no evidence Hippy.

You need peace bro....

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3450340 - 12/05/04 02:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Ah perhaps that was Nan, EVEN BETTER because I still suspect Hippie!

I am irrational, and I like accusing people without reason!

Thanks for playing, and thanks for clearing that up.

Are you a narc? :smile:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3450345 - 12/05/04 02:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I just realized what Chickie is actually doing with
this bullshit narc thing. He is trying to scare off
Mikes' patrons - to hurt Mike.

Chickies first error is that he says
Me and Mike (who live thousands of
miles from each, at opposite ends of the USA)
are working together for the DEA
by setting up a spore selling operation to sell
spores to unsuspecting victims and then we
tell the DEA we sent syringes to so and so, and
then the DEA spends their valuable time by
watching the victims. And that is because
mike refers to PF in his ads which off course
means that PF is in business with Mike. Don't
all the vendors sell the PF strain. Well, there
you go. I must be in league with all of them.

So lets figure out what it means for me and
Mike to set people up for DEA action by
turning in names and addresses of customers.
When one does the PF TEK, there are
no grow lights, no grow rooms, no elevated
power bills, no tell tale aromas of shrooms
growing and no drug dogs able to smell
"magic shrooms" that smell like every other
mushroom. - no nothing to be
seen. Yeah, that is real smart for the DEA
to spend their time watching something that
is undectable. And talk about the obvious -
why would the DEA stoop to such idiocy to
entice people with the letters "PF". There are plenty
of spore vendors other than PFjars.com and the
DEA knows all of them. PF is also full of danger,
didn't PF get busted big time last year? The letters
are kind of a warning sign, kind of like the BEACON
on planet LJ7
that drew the crew of the NOSTROMO to an unsuspected
meeting with baddest alien in movie history.

There has got to be
DEA guys in the Shroomery and Myctopia registrants
to be sure. To access all of these sites, one
has to be a registered participant, so that means
there are DEA people who are taking part in this
so called "OMC".

A similar "idea" is for the FEDS to set up a
meth supply business, sell to the meth
freaks, then the DEA follows them to their
cribs, and sets up surveilance. And of course,
the DEA would be a part of the meth manufacture.
Isn't that entrapment? I thought that was illegal.
It is now illegal for the cops to use those infrared
heat scanners to peer into peoples houses. The
US supreme court ruled against that several years
ago. But of course, according to Chickie, it is
perfectly all right for the feds to get involved with
illegal drug manufacturing to set people up for a
bust.

And then Chickie knows the Hitler doctrine, and that
is if you repeat a lie long enough, the sheep will all
heard together in blind belief no matter how scurious
it is.

And then of course, I ratted to get off "easy". Well,
who did I rat on? The DEA had every opportunity to
check the addresses on orders I was receiving by the
bucket fulls, daily. But they didn't do that, because
how do they know anyone is going to actually use the
syringes and what is the use of busting some little
citizen growing a few shrooms in a closet after a lengthy
and costly investigation using cops that have more
important things to do, like bust real drug dealers and
such. But I will tell one thing they did, and that was that
they set up a surveilance camera at the Seattle post
office - PO 22009. They had photos showing my
step daughter and her boyfriend and my ex employee,
Steve, picking up mail and delivering box fulls of orders.

So if actually, I wasn't ratted on like I believe, that is very
bad news for you people, because what they did to me
they can now do to you. They got finger prints off
of my syringes and stuff like that.

So you remember what happened late February
of last year - the roundup of 50 glass pipe
and paraphernalia manufacturers including
Tommy Chong (who Chickie said "poor Tommy"
when he got raided). There were two glass pipe
makers in Portland Oregon who got 10 months
home detention among a lot of others. Well, just
maybe there is "OPERATION SPORE DROP" going on,
and in the future there will be a big headline news story
that will go something like this - "Magic Mushroom spore
sellers rounded up in a nation wide conspiracy to manufacture
drugs". And then someone will say "poor Chickie".

So Chickies real purpose is to try his best to hurt
pfjars.com. And like I have already said, the letters
PF have become public domain. Even over at ADM,
you always see questions about "PF" jars (now renamed
MYCROTEK JARS). I guess
according to Chickies "reasoning", that would implicate
me. PF are two big letters that will live as long as
the scene continues, and not because of my involvement,
but because the PF TEK rules. I mean it is only one of
many ways to cultivate, but when first timers can
display gorgeous stands of shrooms on cakes, that
is proof that the PF TEK is the best way to cultivate and
that is just history.

THE PROFESSOR

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fanaticus]
    #3450558 - 12/05/04 03:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well, just
maybe there is "OPERATION SPORE DROP" going on,
and in the future there will be a big headline news story
that will go something like this - "Magic Mushroom spore
sellers rounded up in a nation wide conspiracy to manufacture
drugs".

I sure wouldnt doubt that at all!!!

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fanaticus]
    #3450648 - 12/05/04 03:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

who said anything about watching ?
with evidence of
both spores AND substrate sales to the same address
there'd be no need for surveillance,
they would already have all the probable cause
needed to execute a search warrant.
no one has denied that obvious fact.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3450923 - 12/05/04 05:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Has that obvious fact ever been used in a US Spore ring bust before?

I see what you are saying, and Mike is taking a risk, but I don't smell Narc.

I'd like to think Narcs are a bit more inconspicuous.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3450930 - 12/05/04 05:15 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

And find what in a majority of the imaginary "raids" Hip? what about safe addies? How much did you think the "voices in your head" would be willing to pay for a minimal return?
As I said the mushroom is a spirit teacher and you are a poor student. You are delusional and paranoid and should seek help.
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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Hippie3]
    #3450937 - 12/05/04 05:18 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I'm beginning to think this has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with a long running feud between the Professor and Hippie3.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #3451933 - 12/05/04 09:04 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I <3 You Mike.  :smoking:


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Super_Blunt]
    #3452820 - 12/05/04 11:56 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

D.E.A.spores.gov

Why use questionable go betweens such
as the Professor and Mike to sell spore
syringes to unsuspecting victims to be
set up to grow shrooms and then get
watched and then raided? The best way
for the feds to do a spore syringe sting
operation would be for them to do it
themselves - no snitches, no informants
and no questionable information. The
info the feds would get would be direct,
all to them and no one else.

First of all, the feds know the PF TEK.
It would be so easy for them to set up
a nice clean room in some DEA facility
with some terrariums and HEPA filters
blowing all the time for an immaculate
environment.

They can use trained mycologists that
would make excellent spore syringes. That
is a real no brainer, even you people can
do that.

Then they can get a nice big HIGH TIMES
ad with great photos. They can put
up an ad at ALT.DRUGS.MUSHROOMS like
fungi perfecti has done, right up there
on the top right of the page.

Then they can become sponsers
at Mycotopia (Hippietopia) and the Shroomery
and any other magic shroom site.

Then they can guarantee 24 hour delivery
of the spore syringes. And they will of
course guarantee success at growing and
if the would be victim fails, hey, free syringes
as many as they want.

And of course, D.E.A.spores.gov would underprice
all the vendors. If the lowest price of syringes
from a vendor is 3 for $20, no problem. D.E.A.spores.gov
would sell them for 4 for $20. But they would have
to not appear to eager, but just beat everyones
prices by a few bucks. If a vendor does 2 syringes for
$10, D.E.A.spores.gov would sell them for 3 for $10.

And of course, D.E.A.spores.gov would give as an
enticement, a C.D. of PF's old web site, complete with
all the great stuff. The C.D. would be all HTML and JPG
files, usable on any MAC or WINDOWS machine with
the internet browser allready there, ready and able
to show all the files and pages as fast as turning a page.

So why would the FEDS need such questionable go betweens
as PF and MIKE (PFjars.com) to get second hand data
when they can do it themselves, and do the job right?

CHICKIES bullshit about the Professor and PFjars.com being
shills for the FEDS is beyond stupidity. But as an aside,
I think you all know that CHICKIE supports BUSH and his
war. So CHICKIES amazing dumbness is no surprise to me.

I am flabergasted. And amazed at how most of them
geeks over at HIPPIETOPIA suck that bull shit right up.

And MIKE, this shit is really not about the Professor, but
about you. Chickie is just attacking anyway his little
chicken brain can work it. He's desperate.

What the fuck ever happened to
evolution. It ain't happening people!!!!!
Chickie is getting away with this unbelievable
bullshit. All you got to do is walk away from
HIPPIETOPIA. Just resign, leave, bail out.
And announce it in a thread there, but then of
course, Chickie will just delete your post because
he has nothing better to do than man his
little computer and control HIPPIETOPIA
to his preferences.

The PROFESSOR

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fanaticus]
    #3452891 - 12/06/04 12:20 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

From HUSTLE INC

Well, just
maybe there is "OPERATION SPORE DROP" going on,
and in the future there will be a big headline news story
that will go something like this - "Magic Mushroom spore
sellers rounded up in a nation wide conspiracy to manufacture
drugs".
I sure wouldnt doubt that at all!!!
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Yeah, HUSTLE, you got it. Like I said before,
I was raided because I was ratted on, plus
all the years of DEA investigations on PF.

BUT!!!!!!! If I am wrong about my sincere belief
that I was ratted on (my claim is based on a profound
suspicion - I have no proof and I can't get any, because
case informants are all protected by the prosecution
office with anonimity). you got that? I am not
100% sure. So then if I am wrong about being
ratted on and the raid happened because of
routine DEA investigation that was ongoing for many
many years, in fact, since the get go of PF.
Then without a doubt, "OPERATION
SPORE DROP" is well underway. And you
spore vendors who dwell in the USA, are
in great danger.

So what it's going to be? This shit is really bad
and I am glad I am done!

THE PROFESSOR

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Posts: 7,752
Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: fanaticus]
    #3453255 - 12/06/04 02:03 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hopefully current vendors are smart enough not to grow mushrooms on their own property.


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3453402 - 12/06/04 03:44 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Your all doing what is wanted
and expected. Create chaos from
within and any group/organization/entity
will implode... Let it all be.. everyone
back to your corners... And stop all this bickering!!!!


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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: nofind_um]
    #3453557 - 12/06/04 06:25 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Your all doing what is wanted
and expected. Create chaos from
within and any group/organization/entity
will implode... Let it all be.. everyone
back to your corners... And stop all this bickering

GREAT CALL NOFIND
thats how it always works

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: HUSTLE_INC]
    #3453734 - 12/06/04 08:24 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

wait i haven't got to speak, why the hell isn't hippie banned for causing all this trouble, he shouldn't be allowed to state his side of the story on this shit, he's had many chances before in the past when he would accuse some one, and from what i know he has done it many time before. i mean come one now you guys are worried about what this guy is saying? he is the same guy who said the creator of the shroomery was a narc. Not to mention he's going main stream with mycotopia, Ive seen over and over again that the professor new he was being watched because of his ad in high times, and yet hippie is gathering money to get a ad in high times, yeah hes real paranoid. make of it what you want but hippie should not be allowed here, but i guess that's freedom of speech and it shows were the better people for letting him stick around to explain his bullshit theories

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Re: ATTN MikeoLogical [Re: KyKid]
    #3454490 - 12/06/04 11:59 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Let me close this thread by showing another reason why Hippie's word can not be trusted:

He claims over at mycotopia:

>they(shroomery) refused reciprocal links for years
>even though i linked to them.

The shroomery HAS been linking to mycotopia for at least 2 years(and still links....although it might not in the future for all we learned about Hippie in the recent weeks)

>for years they rejected my attempts to
>become a sponsor.

He only asked to become a sponsor a few months ago, after he started selling the pf jars, the exact day was Wed Jul 14 2004 . His request was rejected, for all the stunts he pulled against the shroomery in the past.
So now he is claiming we have been rejecting his attempts for YEARS, where he asked us the first and only time less than 5 months ago...

I am closing this and other threads on this topic , as enough has been said about this matter.

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