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OfflineAsanteA
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What Makes A Man ?
    #3195142 - 09/29/04 12:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Let's not beat around the bush!

We live on a male-dominated world. With the loss of the gender balance of things the image of The Real Man emerged.
What is it?
It seperates the boys from the men!
Still what is it?

With the loss of Tribal Ritual (Rite of Passage into adulthood), with the loss of Warrior Culture, what makes a Man?
What distinguishes the Real Man from the not-so-real Man, or from the boy, or from the female gender?

What makes a Man?
What is their role in the grand scheme of things? Duties? Responsibilities? Rightful privileges?


Remember to remain polite and civil in especially this thread. On one hand you should strive to not offend anyone on this rather delicate subject.

On the other hand things that you genuinely believe and want to uphold, even if they sound like "male chauvinist clich?s" should be expressed, but in a manner that is as respectful as you can deliver it without compromising your personal truth.

Please also state what gender or role you consider best suited for yourself, because it is as important as stating your race in a race debate. Be warned this thread can burst into flames at any time so do not deliberately offend or feel offended by differing opinions.

So in a decent but outspoken climate: Let's discuss what makes a Man!


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195168 - 09/29/04 12:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

having "cohones".


no really, it all has to do with how you treat women. thats how other men view your "manhood".

if your father is a gentleman, then he will say "youre not behaving like a man" when you get all lude at a women.

the oposit is true.

if your father is a lech, when you behave politely around women, he might say "what the hells wrong with you? you pogue!".

IMO

also:

chauvanistic. To have a generous belief in the greatness of one's country, self or GENDER is not chauvinism. It is the character of the latter quality to be wildly extravagant, to be fretful and childish and silly, to resent a doubt as an insult, and to offend by its very frankness.

so, its ok to be "for men" to be a man and think "damn i like being male". that is not chauvanistic in my book. carry on.

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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Todcasil]
    #3195174 - 09/29/04 12:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, courage under fire.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Todcasil]
    #3195177 - 09/29/04 12:54 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

the thought?


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Gomp]
    #3195231 - 09/29/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

gomp, you are my favorite sometimes.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195332 - 09/29/04 01:39 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Smoking Marlboros and a cowboy hat.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195385 - 09/29/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: @ Swami's response

This'll sound cliche, but being a man is all about leadership, courage, and logical reasoning. Females can have these qualities to an extent, but usually not on the scale that males do. For example, you'll rarely, if ever, see a female commander lead soldiers into battle.

What is their role in the grand scheme of things? Duties? Responsibilities? Rightful privileges?

In the tribal sense, males are to lead and look after the weaker members of a group.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195401 - 09/29/04 01:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Penis + Testicles + Puberty = Manhood

The whole idea of there being such a thing as a "real man" is just a silly ego game played by insecure, testosterone-filled jocks.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: ]
    #3195420 - 09/29/04 02:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I have to disagree or at least amend your statement according my perspective.

A leader who hides behind lies and cannot face the truth is a coward and a con- man. His "strength" lay in salemanship alone

A "real" man may or may not be a leader, but has integrity and walks his path with his back straight, neither looking to the left nor the right (metaphorically not politically) for approval from those around him.

My biggest act of manhood was to get out of the US Navy on a Conscientious Objector status. I lost almost all of my friends, had my life threatened and went through three trumped up Captain's Masts (court martials) in an attempt to intimidate and/or imprison me. Was I scared and alone? You bet! Did I waver? No. I could not take a life over political ideology. There was a point of my greatest fear when I realized that they could take my money and put my body in a cell, but that part of me was inviolate. At that juncture I lost all fear.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195442 - 09/29/04 02:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

A man earns a living. And provides for his family.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3195468 - 09/29/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3195506 - 09/29/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

a man is someone that can be femalenon-sexually,while leading himself(maybe helping others too)to his goals.His goals are primarly non-violent,he does not abuse organsims that he knows have the ability to have the same feelings and thoughts as he does,basic though they may be,but he does not use nor abuse them.A man mayb chose alot to help himself with.But,a man helps himself and if he choses to acknowledge his power,he will help others along their path.Helping others is not need to be a man,but it builds character and is a teacher experience for him also from who he teaches.A man does not need testicles are a penis to be a man,its simply choice of over coming thoughts.all men can be women,all women can be men,maybe this isn' true,but i see no reason why not.I don't mean in any physical sense or social sense.Those things don't matter,and should never matter.I would like a female in my life,but i don't know,relationships all come into love and prefrence.I wouldn't mind my lady to be what I described.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: tnecseda]
    #3195514 - 09/29/04 02:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

In my opion that all goes with walking a right path and being a good "person".


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195560 - 09/29/04 02:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

sounds more like we are descriping personalities and life choices. so to what sheik said .


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3195583 - 09/29/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yea,i was just trying to describe how the "right" path is to me.i don't know if it could be correct calling it right,but to me,it does seem it would be the most liberating.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #3195590 - 09/29/04 02:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

So, taking what you guys have been saying, part of being a man includes having a certain code of honor to live by and to lead others by. Not necessarily morality, but a code of conduct that he follows and won't sell himself short of.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: ]
    #3195606 - 09/29/04 02:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds good to me.


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195643 - 09/29/04 02:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What do YOU think makes a man?

its just a lable


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: ]
    #3195653 - 09/29/04 02:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"To thine own self be true." ~ Billy the Shake


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Re: What Makes A Man ? [Re: Asante]
    #3195710 - 09/29/04 03:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

the adjective in front

a man can be many things, perhaps anything


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