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OfflineProdijal_Son
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Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing
    #3192659 - 09/28/04 08:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I notice that when referring to marijuana one tends to say that one is "growing" weed. But, when one makes reference to mushrooms, one uses the phrase "cultivate". What I'm wondering is if it's something to do with the mushroom being a variant of a fruit, while buds are more ... well ... buds of a flower, right?

The reason I ask is because I'm doing this speech here on mushroom cultivation and I want to be able to know why I'm speciifcally referring to it as cultivation.

Would I be wrong to say "grow mushrooms" . . . has anyone seen Kentucky Fried Movie???


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Prodijal_Son]
    #3192687 - 09/28/04 08:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ever trade has its on lingo.Someone got a better ansewer?


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: KaptKid]
    #3192772 - 09/28/04 08:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I do.
WHO FUCKING CARES!  :rolleyes:


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Prodijal_Son]
    #3192842 - 09/28/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Number one the mushroom is the mycelium and the fruit you see is just that the fruit of the mycelium. If you've ever heard of the worlds largest mushroom which BTW is in a poplar forest and is said to be 100's of acres in size. BTW Cultivating is the proper word for the mushroom culture, The mushrooms themselves will grow. :wink: If you do it right that is! LOL


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: diseasedfetus]
    #3192843 - 09/28/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Someone does, that's why it's posted.

Chill the fuck out.


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: MycoCat]
    #3193136 - 09/28/04 09:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

its the same thing any thing your grow to harvets is cultivating i think shroomers like to use cultivate becouse it sounds cooler but if want to get techical its nether growing or cultivating its manufacturing psilocin/psilocybin


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: onetime]
    #3193144 - 09/28/04 09:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well shrooms dont "grow" you cultivate from cultures.


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3193179 - 09/28/04 09:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

verb grow 2. Become larger, greater, or bigger; expand or gain

so in that since once your grow the mycelium in the jars and you case it thus further growing the mycelium and then it pins and shrooms grow

btw

cultivate has nothing to do with culture


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Prodijal_Son]
    #3193216 - 09/28/04 09:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

As I said and GrOwer almost got right we cultivate them and they themselves grow, not very complicated really? Is it?


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: onetime]
    #3193220 - 09/28/04 10:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3194517 - 09/29/04 05:35 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ITs because marijuana growers are mushroom cultivators inferiors and need to use simpler words! :P
Just kidding!! I've been both so I can't talk.

I think the more important question than wether to call itm growing or cultivation, is

Why the hell should anyone care and what does it matter? It gonna make a huge impact on your life or something?

I think not.


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: jon_funk]
    #3194603 - 09/29/04 07:43 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe it's because mushroom isn't a plant that you can't say grow. You don't grow your kids, you raise them. The word "grow" is somewhat inappropriate for the shrooms. I think you use the word "cultivate" in things like oyster and sea cucumbers. But then, you cultivate seaweeds and MJ, too. I think by definition cultivate fits both cases and are used for both. Because of emphasis on the growth of the plant rather than the buds, I think MJ experts are more inclined to use the word "grow" just as the opposite to be true for seaweeds. Anyways, my 2 cents

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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Sam1912]
    #3194639 - 09/29/04 08:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think there is anything wrong with "grow". Mushrooms certainly "grow"; they start as a few cells, and divide & divide until you've got the whole 'shroom.

There is also nothing wrong with cultivate. They are both technically correct.

However, for some reason, based on the definitions alone, it seems that culture and cultivate is more widely used for the growth of microorganisms or a very small ammount of cellular material.

A growth of mycelium on agar is a culture. I guess that just goes together with cultivate better? lol..

A growth of plant tissue on a nutrient medium is also a culture(tissue culture). You wouldn't really say that you're growing marijuana if you had a petri dish with some cells multiplying on it. Even though you could, it would give the wrong impression.

I dunno. Very good question. I can't really come to an exact conclusion.. I'm no English major, lol

As Sam1912 says, it has to do with it being a fungi and not a plant.

Cultivate is certainly used to describe plants too, though. IE: The farmer cultivates corn.

Dunno... confusing, indeed.


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Prodijal_Son]
    #3194732 - 09/29/04 09:40 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

personally i call it "caring for my little friends"

but then again i like to talk to them and encourage them to grow better and to let me know if they need anything.  seems to be working thus far.

i vote everyone makes up their own little phrase instead of picking apart words

could come up with some way funny ones.

either that or totally disregard this post

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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Prodijal_Son]
    #3194760 - 09/29/04 09:56 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Sam wrote:
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Maybe it's because mushroom isn't a plant that you can't say grow. You don't grow your kids, you raise them.




Hmm.. but our kids aren't yeast, so we can't raise them, that's what we do to bread.  Our kids "grow" up, so are they a plant? :wink:

From dictionary.com:

grow:

* To increase in size by a natural process.

cultivate:

* To improve and prepare (land), as by plowing or fertilizing, for raising crops; till.

* To loosen or dig soil around (growing plants).

* " To grow or tend (a plant or crop)."

Conclusion:  They are very closely related synonymns and are interchangeable in the sense you are using them in.

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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Prodijal_Son]
    #3194956 - 09/29/04 11:27 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Cultivate: to foster the growth of.
Growing: Well look it up in the dictionary for yourself and see. It's not even an issue they are two separate things by definition, come on guys how much simpler can this be? We cultivate shrooms/plants and they themselves are growing because of us. I'll tell you to an english major you will sound more intelligent saying cultivate than you would saying growing. I gave you the links look it up for yourself it certainly makes sense to this dude! GL on the report Prodijal Son make us mycologists proud!!!


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3194967 - 09/29/04 11:32 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Gr0wer said:
Well shrooms dont "grow" you cultivate from cultures.




if you plant a seed, it grows, if you plant several seeds in something
that you have prepared then you have 'cultivated' that plant

if you were charged with 'growing' marijuana your charge will be
"cultivation of a controlled substance", it's semantics


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Re: Mincing Words ... Cultivation vs. Growing [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3195047 - 09/29/04 12:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

kramer cutivates his grow....simple yet eloquent  :craven:


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