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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil?
    #3188370 - 09/27/04 10:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It is common knowledge that the U.S. supports(with money, military
hardware, and diplomatic support) certain regimes in the Middle East
in order to ensure stability. This stability makes it more likely
that oil from the Middle East will reach the market. The U.S. not
only purchases oil from the Middle East, but many other countries
do as well. Do you think these other countries owe the U.S. a
debt of gratitude for sticking its neck out(the U.S. gets a lot of
heat for being overtly involved in the Middle East) in order to ensure
that this oil rich region continues to pump and sell oil?


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3188413 - 09/27/04 10:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The oil companies should reimburse the taxpayers for their expenses.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: Evolving]
    #3188448 - 09/27/04 10:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)


The oil companies should reimburse the taxpayers for their expenses.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3188484 - 09/27/04 10:42 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

We supply our own oil in Canada (you, too, import more oil from us than any other source).

Your grandkids will thank you for your country's work in the middle east, don't worry!


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: trendal]
    #3188706 - 09/27/04 11:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)



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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: Evolving]
    #3190633 - 09/28/04 09:10 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Barely, and it's only crude oil that you import more from them for. You actually EXPORT natural gas and gasoline to mexico. Mexico (in the link you provided) only supplied 5000 barrels/day more than Canada did of crude oil, and I'm willing to bet this is a very recent occurance...as of last year you got most of your crude oil from Canada.

(measured in thousands of barrels per day)

Canada:
Crude: 1,663
LPG: 78
Gasoline: 160
Jet Fuel: 1

Mexico:
Crude: 1,668
LPG: -15
Gasoline: -73
Jet Fuel: 11


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3190637 - 09/28/04 09:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Not at all. The US are just making sure they get the best deal. Without the US involvement things may even work better than they do now.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3190663 - 09/28/04 09:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well we did show the middle east how to drill and process the oil so I would say yes.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3192611 - 09/28/04 08:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

If more fanatic Muslims control oil production then there will be more terrorism and higher oil prices.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3194661 - 09/29/04 08:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I can't wait for the day we have a different fuel source, it's going to be nice to see them beg us to but their oil.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3194685 - 09/29/04 08:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

well u better stop voting republican then.


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I myself cant wait to see the day when the euro becomes the standard for trading oil and the US are begging for people to go back to the devalued dollar. Oh happy days.


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Edited by GazzBut (09/29/04 08:55 AM)


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3194702 - 09/29/04 09:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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well u better stop voting republican then.




You haven't been paying attention have you?

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I myself cant wait to see the day when the euro becomes the standard for trading oil and the US are begging for people to go back to the devalued dollar. Oh happy days.




is that before or after England gives up their pound?


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3194756 - 09/29/04 09:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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You haven't been paying attention have you? 




To you? Of course not, I stopped doing that a long time ago!  :grin:

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is that before or after England gives up their pound? 




Probabaly around the same time. Once the Euro starts to get closer to parity with the pound Im sure we will join our fellow Europeans in the single currency. Think how strong a currency it will be then!


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3194780 - 09/29/04 10:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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To you? Of course not, I stopped doing that a long time ago!




that explains your ignorance.

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Probabaly around the same time. Once the Euro starts to get closer to parity with the pound Im sure we will join our fellow Europeans in the single currency. Think how strong a currency it will be then!




I won't say it will never happen but Europe doesn't have a good track record of maintaining their fiscal levels equally. Hell I hope the Euro increases in value just as I wish all countries money increases in value.


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Edited by Innvertigo (09/29/04 10:17 AM)


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3194799 - 09/29/04 10:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

No inny, I know that by playing the currency game only minorities will ever prosper, normally at the expense of people in the third world.

My interest in seeing the Euro wallop the dollar is purely selfish. I just want to see you big headed, brainless yanks brought down a peg or two!


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3194809 - 09/29/04 10:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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No inny, I know that by playing the currency game only minorities will ever prosper, normally at the expense of people in the third world.




WTF???

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My interest in seeing the Euro wallop the dollar is purely selfish. I just want to see you big headed, brainless yanks brought down a peg or two!




Still bitter aboot us kicking your asses huh? Don't count on us ending up fetal, we, unfortunatly for you, are what people want to be. You perceive us to be brainless when we are at the forefront of just about every single worth while endeavor, we bring you limeys along to make you feel useful.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3194825 - 09/29/04 10:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)


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WTF???




Do some research into currency speculation, in particular arbitrage.


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Still bitter aboot us kicking your asses huh?




Lol! Couldnt give a flying fuck inny. Patriotism is retatded and an evolutionary dead end.

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Don't count on us ending up fetal, we, unfortunatly for you, are what people want to be.




Bullshit! You want to be what you are told to be and you want everyone to want to be like you. That has no bearing on reality whatsover.

Sure there are a good points to american culture but in general it is vulgar and decadent and not something that others hold any envy for.

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You perceive us to be brainless when we are at the forefront of just about every single worth while endeavor




Yes there are a large amount of intelligent Americans who I hold in the highest regard but the majority of you are uneducated, usless fat fucks.

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we bring you limeys along to make you feel useful.




You'd like to think so wouldnt you!! Didnt you know the queen still runs all the colonies still, even the ones we've supposedly "given back"?!!


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3194867 - 09/29/04 10:51 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes there are a large amount of intelligent Americans who I hold in the highest regard but the majority of you are uneducated, usless fat fucks.

Such a large portion riding on the coattails of those who actually have merit :smirk:


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3194890 - 09/29/04 11:02 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Do some research into currency speculation, in particular arbitrage.




no, you do a reality check first.

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Lol! Couldnt give a flying fuck inny. Patriotism is retatded and an evolutionary dead end.




didn't say anything about patriotism, you seem bitter, it's sort of sad.

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Bullshit! You want to be what you are told to be and you want everyone to want to be like you.




HA, people are dying to get into our country, literally.  I'm not told to be or think anything, I have the ability to think for myself, *ahem* God save the queen.

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That has no bearing on reality whatsover.




The American culture spreads as we speak, it's a culture I like and enjoy.

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Sure there are a good points to american culture but in general it is vulgar and decadent and not something that others hold any envy for




This comming from one of the most repressive empires of all time.  English Empire.  But the one thing that came out of that repressive empire that was positive was the United States, thanks BTW. :thumbup:

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Yes there are a large amount of intelligent Americans who I hold in the highest regard but the majority of you are uneducated, usless fat fucks.




you watch too much BBC.

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You'd like to think so wouldnt you!! Didnt you know the queen still runs all the colonies still, even the ones we've supposedly "given back"?!!




the queen is a fairy tale.  Your country had it's ass handed to them by mere "comoners" that's pretty humiliating to be the most powerful country in the world and get beat by the minute men.  For shame.


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Re: Should the industrialized world thank the U.S. for oil? [Re: trendal]
    #3194914 - 09/29/04 11:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The rest of the industrialized world doesn't seem to realize that they are just like Americans except that they are more whiney because their country isn't the big monkey of the world right now.


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