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Invisiblesilversoul7
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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3188016 - 09/27/04 07:11 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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Zahid said:
From an extremely liberal perspective it is. The rules of justice in Islam states that some lives can be taken justly according to Shariah.



Too bad for you Islam doesn't dictate the English language. Any intentional killing not done in self-defense is murder.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: silversoul7]
    #3188095 - 09/27/04 07:26 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

That's what Shariah says. Mujahideen obey Shariah.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3188206 - 09/27/04 07:52 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Shariah does not have say over the English language.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3188539 - 09/27/04 08:52 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Hopefully one day we(human beings) will all be able to accept that death is the end and that all religion is crap. Then we won't have to fight over who is right and which one of our ridiculous collections of words of god are correct. Too bad that it won't happen in my lifetime. There are still to many superstitious holy rollers out there that keep teaching the same old crap to their kids.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3188979 - 09/27/04 10:25 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Holy shit, you shouldn't have had me watch that. 

I wish you were joking about this because then I could laugh even more, but knowing about your problem I'm sure you aren't.


There is a longer version of the tape (which may not play on everyone's computers) that does show one individual taking a long object or objects from his car and taking it over to the vehicle at the far right.


This is your first clue as to the absurdness of this analysis.    Acknowledge that their is additional footage but discount it's usefulness and trump up the difficulty in watching it.

It's playable on DiVX with a free download.  Very easy. 

It is assumed by those who want to justify the shooting that this object is a missile launcher assembly being discarded. However, one cannot explain why someone who had just fired off an RPG at US troops would bother to put the used launcher into his car, only to them drive someplace else and then discard it. Nor does it make sense that the man would place a weapon over there it is likely to be run over by the tractor and plough, damaging both the weapon and the plough assembly as well.

It is not assumed by those who justify the shooting that the object is a missle launcher assemply being  discarded .  He's just hiding it or passing it to someone.  It's fully functional.  Of course the other stuff doesn't make sense - it's built on a faulty premise. 

And, given that the man does not in any way point the object at the approaching helicopter, it is clear that at least he does not think it is a working weapon. Given that the object is actually longer than an RPG launcher assembly, three alternative explanations suggest themselves.

The only reason it doesn't get pointed is because he gets turned into swiss cheese by the grace of Allah.  Speaking of which, isn't it obvious which side he is now on?


From the body language of the individuals on the ground, it is clear that they themselves do not feel they are doing anything which should be of concern to a US helicopter hovering nearby. In other words, they do not act like the object thrown into the field near the tractor is anything the US helicopter would object to. No sooner has the man delivered the object to the tractor than he turns and walks back to the car. At no time does he (or anyone else) act like they are trying to escape the area until the Apache opens fire.


BULLSHIT!

When he pulls up he looks around for awhile then quickly takes it out, runs through the field and drops it.  He began walking back to the car, then turned around and ran back to where he dropped it, then went back again for the car - several times.

And the teenager who was surrending?  My favorite.  He's a teenager because he's seen skipping!?!?!?  :lol:

He the one with flag?  That flag was the sleeve they had covering the RPG.  Right after his under-achieving buddy gets blasted, he is seen ripping the sleeve off (your guys flag) to ready the weapon when he gets to experience the glory of the technology that Allah has bestowed upon us. 

I have the full the video if someone wants to host it.  It will be clear to anyone with at least one functioning eye and a marginal ability for deduction to see that what your espousing has more holes than all three of the corpses in the video combined.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3189174 - 09/27/04 10:56 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

SO! God flies an Apache..

..it's so nice that America and its God has weapons of mass destruction to use against the bloody barbaric throat cutting beasts.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3189233 - 09/27/04 11:05 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Not going to read all the replies in this thread, but killing people is wrong. Murdering them from a helicoptor doesn't change that. Even if for some sick reason you think the war against Iraq somehow makes us safer, we've killed 10s of thousands of their innocent civilians... how is that helping the security of the U.S?


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: unbeliever]
    #3189383 - 09/27/04 11:27 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

who gives a fuck about the security of the U.S.? What about the sanity of the world?


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3189386 - 09/27/04 11:28 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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Lightningfractal said:
who gives a fuck about the security of the U.S.? What about the sanity of the world?




What does that even mean?


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: unbeliever]
    #3189409 - 09/27/04 11:31 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

means that americans are too worried about their security. i find it funny when i hear americans whine about gas shortages while people in third world countries struggle quietly against disease and starvation.

I would much rather see a sane world than a secure america.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3189646 - 09/27/04 11:59 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Go back to OTD.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #3189667 - 09/28/04 12:03 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Right, so as he was waving the flag/cloth/tarp whatever, he must have been dusting off the RPG. And there's more to suggest he was a teenager aside from the skipping, as he was greeted with a cheek kiss by the other man which is custom in Arab culture between relatives. But that's just 3 people who got killed. You're forgetting about the street protest - Aw Dude!


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3189720 - 09/28/04 12:12 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

new sig, I love it!

but uh. how do these throat slashing barbarians deserve any sympathy either? The whole fucking world is nuts now.

hey let's face the facts... Islam sucks, and america is going to take over the world. That's just the way it is, and I hope that the muslim throat slashers are offered more 7-11's to keep them buzy, O.K.?

Now can I get back to rolling this joint?


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3189734 - 09/28/04 12:14 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Frankly Islam is the only thing keeping this world sane.

Btw, your sig is offensive. Get rid of it.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3189749 - 09/28/04 12:18 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Oh, O.K.

...you put up a sig depicting a happy jewish boy playing basketball with a happy muslim boy, and I'll take my sig down.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3189755 - 09/28/04 12:19 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I'll just wait for the admins to do it.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3189760 - 09/28/04 12:20 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, fuck peace right?


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Zahid]
    #3189768 - 09/28/04 12:22 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

do islamists hate blacks too or just jews?


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3189770 - 09/28/04 12:23 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Yea.


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Re: Americans murder Iraqi civilians: protesters, farmers, k [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3189778 - 09/28/04 12:24 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Islam hates anyone who wages wars against Muslims. A large chunk of Muslims are black. There are more black Muslims than black Christians.


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