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Yet another question on Libertarianism.
    #3183484 - 09/26/04 08:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, I have a question on libertarianism. Now, I've always held a strong belief that America needs to get out of its two party state of mind. But when exploring different parties (which I'm frantically doing in hopes of trying to find a home before election day), I try to do so with at least one eye open for realism. Although I realize it's going to be many many decades before any third party becomes generally accepted by the public, I'd like to hope that I'll be able to see some progress before I die. America is far from being a libertarian nation. And I have no idea what kind of realistic prospects the party has. So... I've been doing a half assed job of looking around the world for clues.
My question is: To anyone's knowledge, has there been a modern country which has undergone a libertarian revision, so to speak? Has any country, with at least some simalarities to the US, started out, strayed from its constitutional ideals, and then done a successful job of returning to them? Have any nations even made a solid attempt?
Any help with this question would be very appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: Yet another question on Libertarianism. [Re: Gijith]
    #3183495 - 09/26/04 08:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

No nation is completely libertarian, but I'm sure you can find plenty of examples of countries deregulating their economy or becoming more socially tolerant. Russia could be said to have gone in a more libertarian direction following the fall of communism. The Netherlands could be said to have gone more libertarian by adopting a more tolerant drug policy. My understanding is that quite a few European countries are turning back on their socialist policies and drifting more towards free market solutions. Of course, you have to understand that this is all relative. None of these places could be considered anywhere close to libertarian, but they have made moves in that direction. I'm not familiar with any other country's Constitution, so I can't help you out there, but while libertarians tend to admire the US Constitution, libertarianism is not necessarily synonymous with Constitutional constructionism.


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Re: Yet another question on Libertarianism. [Re: Gijith]
    #3183674 - 09/26/04 09:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

You also have to look at the States "Libertarians" and the rest of the World's Libertarians.

IMHO the States version of Libertarianism isn't valid in a realistic society and fortunately for my opinion no society has every embraced or thrived under their ideas.


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Re: Yet another question on Libertarianism. [Re: silversoul7]
    #3183677 - 09/26/04 09:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Russia is currently trying to expand the power of the Kremlin. Far from libertarian.


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Re: Yet another question on Libertarianism. [Re: Zahid]
    #3183967 - 09/26/04 11:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Russia is currently trying to expand the power of the Kremlin. Far from libertarian.



I was just giving an example from the past. If they are currently moving in a more statist direction, then it is a sad state of affairs indeed.


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