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OfflineSammy
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Karo tek on crack!!
    #3183407 - 09/26/04 07:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Okay I'm going to try to explain what's happened the last day with my first try on a Karo water Tek.

I cleaned the hell out of a 1/2 pt mason jar and filled it full of water, then transfered that + a little extra water into a small pot to boil. The water was then boiled, and 1 1/2 tsp. of Karo light corn syrup was added to the mason jar. I made a plastic wrap top for it, also punctured hole in the jar's top (the disc). After water was boiled, I poured it into the jar... quickly put on the plastic wrap top and then put the regular mason jar lid over that (with rubber side of disc facing UP for ventilation). That was let to cool for about 3 hours. When I felt it was fully cool, I added 2cc of PES Amazonian spore solution. After inspectionn, everything seemed to be done correct and the contents of the jar were completely clear. Jar was kept at around 78deg. That was last night at around 5pm. Today at 11am I noticed small bits of white stuff floating around in there... actually an abundance of them, and today at 4pm when I went to shake it up again.. it had noticably MORE white growth on the inside.

I've heard that it takes 2-4 days to notice any growth of any kind. Is it possible that I've got mycellium growing already?? I'll try to post some pics tomorrow or later tonight on what I mean. The white chunks aren't stringy really.. they're just individual chunks about as big as some dandruff would be. (LOL). ..

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3183510 - 09/26/04 08:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I did the same 2 cc of B+. On monday, 6 days ago. This morning a slight shake revealed fluffy balls of Myc. - I assume that in a few days it would be even better to inoculate with...


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3183512 - 09/26/04 08:46 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)



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pftek said:Impossible to clean everything right now. Maybe in a week.





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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3183540 - 09/26/04 09:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

We will see in the pics I guess! I mean if conditions are prime and the spores are fresh who knows!


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3183549 - 09/26/04 09:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That is wicked good man! I was just thinking of doing that. I wonder if that will work with azuescens spores in place of agar.


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3185907 - 09/27/04 12:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Pics coming up later today. Noticed even more mycellium growing this morning. Seriously people it's growing like crazy in there. I wish I would have known about this when my cow was growing before.. he would have used it.

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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3185949 - 09/27/04 01:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Amazonian is a very cool strain


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3186430 - 09/27/04 03:22 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

don't smoke crack!


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3186704 - 09/27/04 04:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Mushrooms spores germinating are easily identified by the strings of hyphae, these are a great indicator of success BTW. Spores in syringes are already hydrated just waiting for nutrients so it is definitely possible you have germination but I'd want to give it a real close look before I celebrated. :wink: GL


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: hyphae]
    #3187259 - 09/27/04 06:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah..contams could be spreading too and spread quicker then myc. Let us know if it works! I noticed growth about 40 hours after injecting with spores before though..I imagine sooner is possible.


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3187286 - 09/27/04 06:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It has been a week and it's not that it's growing incredibly fast, it's just that after having shook the jar slightly, the individual pieces found each other aloof in the liquid....whether or not its myc is not in question as it looks good as pictures i have seen, but WHEN would one use this for innoculating....we can do this now, but when will the myc stop - adn when can i get the most out of the jar....any experiencee welcommme


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: qwon]
    #3187357 - 09/27/04 06:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You can use it whenever...the more white the better (as long as it doesnt clog the syringe anyway) and it will grow until it uses all the nutrients (karo) in the water. When you add more karo water to it though it will grow and replace whatever myc you took out..


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3199603 - 09/30/04 01:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I can't get a pic up because I just found out I'm a cheap ass and I can't buy a decent digital camera. ... damn thing can't see the detail at all. Anyway.. when I shake the Karo jar in the morning, I see small white crap on the bottom stuck together.. as instructed I shake it and a whirl of tiny white pieces swirl around in there. It's crazyness. How much of this (at least) should I use to innoc. a jar?

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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3199919 - 09/30/04 02:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I used some last night...just took a sterile needle sucked some up then out mix up good no clumping and sucked up again and innoc. kaboom


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: qwon]
    #3200047 - 09/30/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:eek: :eek: I've probably got about.. hmmm... If I were to suck it all up... 2-3cc of this stuff.. how much of this should I innoc. a single 1/2 pt with?? Still confused over here!!

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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3200312 - 09/30/04 04:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You will not have to suck up the 'bits'...More importantly you must break the strands up by sucking up a syringe..(leave the needle still in the hole, then innoculate the karo jar again, that is in and out of your syringe without pulling up the syringe..this will make particles of myc everywhere, do this a few times, then fill your syringe. There will be MUCH more myc still in the jar, you should be able to get a few full syringes out of the jar (i don't know 100ml to cc and size of syringe). If you hold the full syringe to the light and look closely you will see 'dust' like size myc and larger and ones you cant see. Say a prayer and innoculate your jars - how mych? anywheree from .5 - 4.0 cc IMO - also depending on the constitution of your substrate - if the substrate is already moist enough you don't want to add too much more moisture in there- will raise the prob of contam - play it safe you will see results within 3 days iif you're lucki. just remember STERILIZATION is key - don't waste time by not being extra vigilant on this matter. GL and may the force be with yourcology.


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: qwon]
    #3200776 - 09/30/04 06:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You can't see it but you got more then 2-3 cc's of it. All of that water has tiny peices floating in it once you break it up. Then you suck up the water (after shaking the jar around) and use 1-3ccs per jar. Before sucking it up though have some new fresh karo made up to squirt in and replace what you took out. The myc will consume the new stuff you put in to replace what you took out and the jar never becomes empty (should last months before needing a new liquid solution).

To break it up I just spin the water one way in the jar and then spin it the other over and over again and the water jerks it apart and disperses it well without getting karo water (much anyway) in the holes and on the tyvek. Then suck it up while it's still swirling around..keeps the myc evenly dispersed this way when you suck it up. Sometimes I do the pull in the water and squirt it back in to break it up too but only for really tough peices (agar wedges tend to clump).


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3200874 - 09/30/04 07:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you!! Shroomery members!!

Sammy


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Re: Karo tek on crack!! [Re: Sammy]
    #3203028 - 10/01/04 06:36 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

and i quote,

'Before sucking it up though have some new fresh karo made up to squirt in and replace what you took out. The myc will consume the new stuff you put in to replace what you took out and the jar never becomes empty (should last months before needing a new liquid solution).'

Thats key to consistency... :thumbup:


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