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Invisiblebaltazar
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growth stoped !!!
    #3182106 - 09/26/04 11:36 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)


I need some help, i posted some questions in my second attempt grow log thread, but obviously not many growers search that forum so i have to ask you guys here ...

I have 6 jars, no contamination in any of them. Everything was done perfectly, the conditions in the incubator are optimal. The only problem is that i have foil lids with no holes so i think maybe the air exchange could be the problem ?

Some guy told me that maybe they dried out, but that isnt the problem, becose i can see it is moist in there ...

If you want to see some pics, go to grow log forum and look on my post second grow attempt ...

Please help, becose im geting realy worried  :sad:


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #3182111 - 09/26/04 11:43 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

You NEED holes, Get a nail, dip it in alchohol.

Then burn the alchohol off the nail and hammer it into the lid.

Keep the foil lids intact.


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: MAGnum]
    #3182133 - 09/26/04 12:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So i make holes in the foil lid, and then turn the jars upside down ?

CO2 should travel to the bottom of the jar and get out through the holes, and O2 should find its way through the holes to go in the jars ?

Are you sure this will help ? Is there something else that could cause this problem ?


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #3182235 - 09/26/04 12:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

No hammering required, this person has no lid at all, just tin foil (two layers I think that way calls for). Make holes in the foil like (poke with alcoholed nail like suggested) but only in the bottom layer of tin foil..keep the other lid on top...this shouldnt be the problem though. Are they colonized at all? How long has it been? They can take 2-4 weeks to fully colonize so make sure that this isn't just an issue of another impatient grower :smile:


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3182250 - 09/26/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)


take a look here - http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1

The jars were inoculated 2 weeks ago, the mycelium was first visible few days after inoculation, as normal. Then it started to grow nicely, but then it just stoped. So i waited one week to see if there will be any more growth, nothing happened so i made a topic here to find out whats wrong ...

Yes, i don't have a lid at all, just 2 layers of tin foil. I made 5 holes ( 5mm large ) with a nail diped and burned using alcohol and now i turned all of them upside down, ill wait one day and then fan out the bottom air in the incubator ( CO2 ) so that fresh O2 can come in the jars ...

So do you think the jars are going to be ok and continue growing ?


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #3182314 - 09/26/04 01:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Good job flipping the jars, that can help with stalled jars. And flipping jars can also soak up extra moiture (the dry verm layer) which can cause jars to stall. Fanning the bottom air shouldnt be nessesary but wont hurt. Some strains (B+ and others) have been known stallers as well, perhaps this is the case as well..just be patient PF jars can take up to four weeks and more..

Time will tell but as long as they dont get contamed they will grow at some point. It just may be painfully slow. Might be time to start thinking about getting some rye ready and getting out of the PF tek :smile: Jar's 4 times the size done in 2-3 weeks max from spores..grains good stuff.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3182334 - 09/26/04 01:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yeah, the only reason why im still growing using the PF tek is because i dont have a good pressure cooker. Im planing to get one for my next growth so that i don't have any more problems with the PF tek :smile:

I hope the jars will start to grow again next week ...

I will post how it goes in my "second attempt" thread, so you can look over ther at the end of the next week ...

ps. if anyone haves some more advices for my problem, please post ...


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #3199868 - 09/30/04 02:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)


I turned the jars upside down, and now after 4 days no new growth !!!

Im geting realy worried, please help people ...

What else could i do ?


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #3199992 - 09/30/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Wheres the uncolonized substrate top or bottom? or is it just like that one pic basically? CO2 is wanted in case you have never read that the more the better for vegetative growth! :smile: Are your temps at all close to optimum (82-84F.)? Too cool or too warm can stall sometimes. Are you incubating in the dark? (it helps) :wink:


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: hyphae]
    #3200424 - 09/30/04 04:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, im incubating in dark, the temperature is optimal, i growed before in the same conditions and everything was fine ...

It is still like on that one picture that you can see in my grow log post ...

What to do ... ?! i realy dont have a clue


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: baltazar]
    #3200633 - 09/30/04 05:58 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

All else being the same cuts your stall down IMO to bacterial infection or overly wet substrate. With foil covers you have plenty of gas exchange so thats not an issue. Jars stall for a reason just wish we could pin it down as to why yours are? Either way GL


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: hyphae]
    #3200849 - 09/30/04 06:57 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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hyphae said:
All else being the same cuts your stall down IMO to bacterial infection or overly wet substrate.




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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: growth stoped !!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3200958 - 09/30/04 07:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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scatmanrav said:
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hyphae said:
All else being the same cuts your stall down IMO to bacterial infection or overly wet substrate.




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