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Incubation lid and RH Q
    #3180307 - 09/25/04 09:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hey all, new to the board as u can see.... Ive read a bunch of different teks and searched shroomery for this info, but from what ive read, i want to make sure im right.

While incubation(directly after innoculation (pre-germination) the jar lids should be left on tight(not air tight, but tight). Is this correct? Secondly, the relative humidity should reamin in between 50-70%?

is this also correct?


Thank you for your time, please lead me to any links that show answers to my Q's
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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3180364 - 09/25/04 09:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

welcome to the shroomery :smile:

lids should be left on tight
yes they should be left on tight but not airtight :grin:

the relative humidity should reamin in between 50-70%?
RH should be around 90-100%!! that means spraying about 6-7 times a day or there abouts. :wink:


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3180391 - 09/25/04 10:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The RH sounds just fine. The lids can be cracked loose a bit to aid in gas exchange along with the holes in the lid, this really does help the myc grow very healthy :wink: GL and Welcome friend


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: hyphae]
    #3180655 - 09/25/04 11:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i also read about the tightness of the lid depending on the water content of the jars themselves. Hence the more water, the less tight the lids (PF tek i believe). I figured it would make sense to have the lids pretty tight until mycelium growth begins, then loosen the lids a bit to aid in O2. Anyone want to clear this up?

And back to RH... I have my jars in a chamber, so it should be very humid in there huh, even pre-germination?


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3180722 - 09/25/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm a drunken Canadian tonight too  :tongue:


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: Cornelius]
    #3180873 - 09/26/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yep. your jars are offering all the humidity the mycelium will need unless they get dried out (temps too high, or using a heating pad directly on the jars... bad idea).

after you get to about dime/nickel sized colonization, i'd losen them up a bit. if they start to stall, flip them over. this will let the CO2 drain out more easily.


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3180947 - 09/26/04 12:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Actually You want all the co2 you can get for incubating. I like to crack the lid (just slightly) after innoculating also if you use tape remove it then I put the foil back on place in the incubator and leave alone until fully colonized, BTW I've never had a jar stall. Also slightly wet substrate jars can be flipped and the dry verm layer will soak up a bit of the excess. GL you can take my advice or leave it but please no one argue it.


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: hyphae]
    #3180985 - 09/26/04 12:37 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

hrm hyphae, i've never been told that. but come to think of it, i left some stalled jars in a clean shoebox in my growspace for 2 weeks and looked at them... went from 2 dime sized innoc. points to 75-80% colonization... and my other jars when kept at better temps went slower..

oh, and the flipping for wetness, how well does that work for you? i've never innoculated a jar i wasn't happy with (except on my first try), so i wouldn't know.


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3181105 - 09/26/04 01:15 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I myself haven't had overly wet substrate but I know plenty that have and it's helped. Optimum incubating co2 levels are 10,000+ PPM BTW. GL guys


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: hyphae]
    #3181783 - 09/26/04 04:10 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I am using a heating pad, but have a towel folded four times which gives me about 80 degrees F surface heat (bottom of the tray). Back to the RH. Should i spray while germinating/colonizing?


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3181804 - 09/26/04 04:22 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

no. the humidity in the jars should be enough.

i use a heating pad with 2 towels folded a few times for my incubator, but that's under the rubbermaid i store them in. there's one more towel on the bottom of my rubbermaid, just in case. you don't want all that heat directly on the jars, it will dry them out.


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3181944 - 09/26/04 06:24 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ok, im pretty sure my temp is ok. I monitor it all the time. Is it pretty general that the RH should be left to the internals of the jar? or should it be added by spraying? I am a noob, and yes, i imagine i have noob frights and think im doin everything wrong, which who knows, i prolly am, but i have learned a bunch from trial and error already. i guess the main things are keep nominal heat, and leave the things alone huh?I just want to make sure they are able to breath (if they need to at this stage) and if they need to be watered(if they need to at this stage). i think those are my biggest questions as of now....


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3182206 - 09/26/04 12:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Do not spray while they are incubating...you've already been told that. Humidity isnt a problem because everythings in the jars, why do you want to keep the outside of the jars wet? Just let them be and let them get fully white.


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Re: Incubation lid and RH Q [Re: drunkencanadian]
    #3182437 - 09/26/04 02:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Loving your myc to death is the #1 cause of myc fatality in the world today! Look after them but don't smoother them, they need there space. GL


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