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Offlinenu2mycology
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Abetter way than cakes?
    #3180038 - 09/25/04 08:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I just spent $900 with a company for a glove box water incubator spores substrate jars and some other stuff. What a waste of money! I have followed the instructions and have shrooms growing, but just don't feel like it was worth the cost of the kit! They have me growing off of cakes. I am assuming that these are their equivalent to the PF style cakes.Is this correct? All that is in these jars is BRF,Vermiculite, and water? They charge $50 for a dozen of these jars! They charged me $80 for a spore syringe! They also gave me a gadget to make humidity for $150, I could have built it for $20!
Is there a better way to get more yield, such as a casing method?
They also sold ma a brew for $100 that I did a direct spore drop into. Anyone know what the powder might have been that they put into the jar? :mushroom2:


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3180050 - 09/25/04 08:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Wow... you got screwed. Look at the sponsers. Syringes for $10. Entire setup can cost under $200 (well under in my experiences) and yield pounds with casings or bulk substrate.


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3180058 - 09/25/04 08:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

... I'm shocked and appalled.

16 lbs of WBS Substrate Material = $4
8 quart electric pressure cooker = $75
12 12 ounce jars = $10

And you can just make your own glove box. $900... that's some dough, jesus


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3180065 - 09/25/04 08:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Lets actually see...

$15 syringe
$5 BRF
$5 Distilled water
$5 Verm
$30 Homemade Glovebox
$30 Homemade Tub-Tub Incubator
$5 Case for casings
$9 A dozen 1/2 pint to pint jars

There you have it. Everything you had for $104 and that can make a lot of mushies. You could even do magash's rye tek from this site. It will make mass amounts of shrooms for well under $300 for everything (minus the whole martha setup... didn't try that). Don't buy premade kits man. Just read the site and do it yourself. Cheaper with better outcome.


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: Hrethic]
    #3180070 - 09/25/04 08:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

AHhaha damn man i really don't think it's very wise investing over $1k if you are just starting out!@!!

I put about 400 bux in to start and things are going great for me, first flush popping out now. I really didn't need to spend that much but if you do spend more the right way it is definitely worth it.

I would sell that '$900' glovebox and just practice making cakes first, then when you get serious about it maybe buy one...i really don't know why you would want to spend that much on one though when you can make one for like 50 bux.,....maybe you are rich or something i dunno :laugh:


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3180172 - 09/25/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Where did you get this $900 setup from ?


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: pshawny]
    #3180274 - 09/25/04 09:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well it was Almost $900 incuding shipping and what they call "The Little Wonder" the kit was $550, The Little wonder was %150, plus a few extras. This is where I got it from: [url=hno-spamming non-vendors please[/url]
check out their prices, they gank people!


Edited by george castanza (09/25/04 11:11 PM)


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3180291 - 09/25/04 09:42 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I am glad to have found this site! Had I known about it before I never would have spent all that money on a bunch of plastic and some spores!
I have been having pretty good luck so far with my first flush, It is on it's second wave of fruit and going strong! got about an ounce of dried shrooms almost so far! I think I need to learn about the casing method.
Thank you for all the replies, and I'll take any good help or advice I can get!


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3180584 - 09/25/04 10:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What a horrific ripoff!!!! :shake:


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: Cornelius]
    #3180636 - 09/25/04 11:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've seen that website before, but it was under a different name, can't remember what. Up to $90 for a spore syringe, man that's crazy. My advice to you, stay away from them in the future.


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: pshawny]
    #3181157 - 09/26/04 01:29 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That must be run by the Keeper. He's a known rip off artist. Almost got had for a kit from him as well but I stumbled onto some sites before I ordered and luckily didn't go that route. I have spent probably between 1000 and 1500 dollars though in my first two months of growing :smile: When you add it all up its expensive..but my setup went a bit extreame from the very start soooo...yeah sorry you wasted all that money..but know now that you dont need to. Make sure you read up on spore print/syringe teks and make one off of that casing so you can start again. Only need a few things..I'd agree with the just over a hundred bucks to get started..every grow after your first is cheaper though cause you dont need to rebuy a majority of stuff. Only substrate really, which I get for about 29 bucks for 50 pounds and makes many pounds of mushies (rye).

Visit sponsers if you end up needing syringes! The little guy and Ralphsters are good..nice prices especially on multiple syringes.. Like 5-6 for 40 bucks or less.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3181275 - 09/26/04 01:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My whole cultivation setup cost me under 50 euro, you got screwed hardcore.


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: Hallucinogen]
    #3181757 - 09/26/04 03:51 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

holy fucking shit

i hope you werent saving up for a long time.


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: NNY]
    #3181809 - 09/26/04 04:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

50 euro is nothing dude.


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3182168 - 09/26/04 12:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It was the keeper that I bought everything from! I sold my 4x4 jeep to get the $ for a kit! I don't reccomend anyone doing any business with him! My kit did not have everything in it,it was waaaaaay over priced, and it takes them weeks and weeks to answer any questions. It took over 2 months to get most of my 24 jars to colonise! 2 jars colonised quickly the other22 took almost 3 months to complete!
I will now be checking out the sponsors here for my needs!


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: Hallucinogen]
    #3182183 - 09/26/04 12:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think he was talking to me..and no I was making about double that a month..wasnt a big deal..I ended up going about it a little more expensivly then I needed to but its ok, live and learn. I could probably do it all again for a few hundred bucks cheaper but then I'm still not done spending..I need two more dehydrators and some more rye and coir today..but these babies give me alot more these days and the money they require is nothing :smile:


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: nu2mycology]
    #3182216 - 09/26/04 12:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

You learned.Now you here,you can learn some more and have fun.

Good Luck


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Edited by KaptKid (09/26/04 12:44 PM)


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Re: Abetter way than cakes? [Re: KaptKid]
    #3182225 - 09/26/04 12:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you KaptKid! Glad to be here too! Now I need to keep reading and learn how to deal with bulk substrates. I hear that is where the big shrooms come from!


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