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exclusive58
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Well, I recommend that you stop for a month, then smoke some real chronic stuff, and from then just smoke once every week or two. I find that this way you get the most outof weed.
I stopped for a month and yesterday night I smoked a gram of AK47, and let me tell you, I had a crazy ass trip  It was probably the equivalent of a level 2 mushroom trip. I woke up this morning and I felt fresh and regenerated, just like how you feel when you wake up the day after a shroom trip. It was some stuff.
Markos said you can learn how to get a high without using any drugs...well I can have a shroom trip with weed only!
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Moonshoe]
#3182079 - 09/26/04 09:16 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pot, like anything, is not good in excess.All things should be taken in moderation.
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huehue it has been tested and proved that psychadelic trips can be one of the most effective ways to quit serious addictions (not that i have that kind of an addiction) . IT rearanges your perception, your perspective. I cant say if salvia does that since ive never tripped on it, but mushrooms have certainly helped my make serious changes to my habits and behaviours.
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Chimera
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Swami]
#3182983 - 09/26/04 03:23 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Swami said: If you take thin slices of cerebral (outer brain) tissue from a regular pot smoker,...
OK, I took some slices from my buddy's brain with a deli-slicer - now what do I do with them? (Damn, he bled something fierce!)
Stick them in a skillet and fry them, of course. There's enough fat on those things to cook you up a mean country omelette!
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Swami
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Chimera]
#3183016 - 09/26/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is your brain on drugs... with a side of hash browns.
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Moonshoe]
#3183187 - 09/26/04 04:27 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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But now, to put it crassly, im ready to move onto bigger and better trips, Lucid dreams, OBE's, Astral travel, Dimensional shifting, deep meditation... These (including taking drugs like weed) are all very introverted ways of finding truth and exploring spirituality. If you want a real change from all of that, you can try something that doesnt have to to do with escapism. I dont know, but if you really want to see whats out there, you can ask some of the veterans that frequent this forum because they have alot of experience. Ped is pretty good, and so are many others. If you wanna stick to the sort of journey style spirituality, there are tones of options too. Theyre all good, and whatever works the best for you, you should do. But if you want to explore something new, you can always aproachanyone whenever you want to figure out what the options are...
Edited by Northernsoul (09/26/04 04:29 PM)
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Swami]
#3183238 - 09/26/04 04:47 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Swami said: This is your brain on drugs... with a side of hash browns.
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3183745 - 09/26/04 08:02 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you H.
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Moonshoe]
#3184049 - 09/26/04 09:25 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Salvia is not an indole hallucinogen like acid or shrooms. While I do believe hallucinogens can be used to beneficial effect, sitting around stoned (on anything) all the time just because you can is harmful. Moderation is the key to all things...even religion, diet, and exercise...especially religion.
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"These (including taking drugs like weed) are all very introverted ways of finding truth and exploring spirituality. If you want a real change from all of that, you can try something that doesnt have to to do with escapism. I dont know, but if you really want to see whats out there, you can ask some of the veterans that frequent this forum because they have alot of experience. Ped is pretty good, and so are many others.
If you wanna stick to the sort of journey style spirituality, there are tones of options too. Theyre all good, and whatever works the best for you, you should do. But if you want to explore something new, you can always aproachanyone whenever you want to figure out what the options are... "
this post, although it means well, doesnt appear to have any real content. If you have a suggestion of something i should do or try, or if you see some problem with the list i already layed out, please share.
I mean, i do want to explore something new, namely the deepest realms of human experience, via Astral travel, lucid dreaming, meditation, OBE's, Dimensional shifting, and psychadelics, as well as travel to remote and alien regions of the earth.
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MarkostheGnostic said: I hope that you follow through. I began to use cannabis on the last night of 1968. I used hashish for the most part til I left college in 1976 when I returned to my home town and went to seminary. After that, there was little time to waste in grad school, and I was very poor on top of it. Becoming a substance abuse counselor made me abstain even socially because of the element of hypocrisy when teaching clients to find self-generated, non-substance, non-dependent ways for achieving inner peace.
If one does not put away childish things, no growth or development can occur. If being genuine is important, then peace must derive from real spirituality and one cannot deceive oneself by equating real peace with being stoned. There is a world of difference between a deep, still pool of crystal clear water and a deep pool that is still because it is choked with mud. Purkinje and Pyramidal neurons are meant to be crystal clear, not amber yellow. Talking about spiritual development while one still clouds the mind, indulges in mere reveries, limits memory and induces apathy is just self-deceptive talk. No doubt all kinds of defensive and insulting words will result from this evaluation, but it is true nevertheless. I am in middle age and staying sharp, smart and quick requires psychophysical health. If one hasn't learned how to be stoned without dope after years of stoning, it's not taught one anything and is just drug dependence.
Had I stopped smoking earlier, I might have completed biology studies and gone into medical school. I probably would have enjoyed psychiatry, but I wouldn't have even headed in that direction most likely because such interest didn't occur until after I made that first decisive move away from medicine. Thinking philosophically was behind my psychedelic exploration, which pulled me far from the materialistic medical model. On the other hand, changing paths (cannabis played a significant role) did lead me through philosophy, theology and psychology studies into a synthesis that is fairly rare in this day and age. It may have been common in late '60's Berkeley, but not now. Cannabis use decreased and ended 10 years after I had started - all part of the script of my life, but I have no time to piss away languishing in la la land.
Today, without THC monopolizing my sensitive reuptake sites, I can smoke buck-and-a-half per oz. Passion Flower, get buzzed on its Harmine and Harmaline content (a much much cleaner head), go to sleep from it or stay stoned, have no grogginess upon awakening, and have noticeable antianxiety and antidepressant effects for 24 hours after 3 hits off a pipe. This is 'as needed,' for the aforementioned maladies, not a freakin' life-style dedicated to avoiding real inner and outer growth and development.
I sincerely hope the best for you in this decision!
Peace.
massive thumb up... more fuel for the fire... as always a guide for the traveler from one who has been there and studied how to be There
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: 2Experimental]
#3185381 - 09/27/04 05:39 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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'Thankyouverymuch.'
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Moonshoe
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yup markos is definetly one of our most prized possesions here at S and P (and yes markos you are our possesion) 
anywho. what does indole hallucinogen mean?
btw there is no risk of me sitting around stoned on salvia just cuz i can. Its a huge emotional task just for me to do it at all, it took me weeks to work up the nerve last time.
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Moonshoe]
#3186487 - 09/27/04 01:32 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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My suggestion: find a nice spot (outdoors, and free from distraction) and meditate at least 10 minutes a day. I noticed improvement in my spiritual and mental wellbeing within 2 or 3 days. That was pretty stunning. At first it seemed I couldn't make time for myself to meditate, but when I realized the benefits, I've decided to make time for meditation. It just feels so nice, and the rest of the day is like... a river flowing, and I flow with it :-)
Also, do productive things with yourself. Learn something. Get a job if you don't already have one. What kind of things interest you?
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Moonshoe]
#3186885 - 09/27/04 03:00 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is in reference to the indole ring in the molecular structure. LSD, Psilocybin, Psilocin and DMT are all indole hallucinogens and their basic activity in the brain is essentially the same.
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Moonshoe
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#3188363 - 09/27/04 08:21 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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interesting, and meditating is indeed great. I try to do a half hour os so every day before blazing, but this tends to go out the window (like all my good habits) as soon as the school schedule begins.
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: Moonshoe]
#3188634 - 09/27/04 09:09 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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if you have five minutes to login and reply to a post, you have 5 minutes to meditate :-)
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: entiformatie]
#3188678 - 09/27/04 09:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can also meditate while you post 
(or doing anything really)
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Re: why i think i should quit weed [Re: entiformatie]
#3188683 - 09/27/04 09:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah i like to meditate for at least a half hour -45 minuites tho cuz it takes me at least five minuites to calm down initially and start slowing my thoughts. But i guess any time is better than nothin
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