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party affiliation?
    #3172194 - 09/23/04 11:02 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

are any of you registered with a political party with your voter registration shit?

i'm filling out a registration form because i've recently changed my address. i'm thinking about registering as a republican. registering with a party only matters because you can vote in their primaries, right? i figure that i like pretty much no democrats, some republicans, and almost all libertarians.... so it makes sense to register as a republican and vote in their primaries and whatnot.

are you registered as an independent or with a party?


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3172211 - 09/23/04 11:05 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

I am registered libertarian. I was always under the impression that 3rd party funding is directly correlated to the amount of people registered to the party.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3172248 - 09/23/04 11:09 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

dont register at all. all partys are part of the system and change will never happen as long as the masses accept and participate in this corrupt system of no choice. dem rep or third party are all jokes. REAL AMERICANS DONT VOTE


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3172271 - 09/23/04 11:12 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

I recently changed my party registration from Democrat to Libertarian. Even though I'm pretty much cool with any Libertarian, I decided I'd rather register my support for the only party that represents my ideals than worry about voting in the primaries for the mainstream candidate who's less of a jackass than the other mainstream candidates.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3172318 - 09/23/04 11:18 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

i say choose non of the above by not voting. once the people stop accepting the system by doing things like this the system will loose all power and we will be able to take the power back and make true change by non violant means. because change is impossible from within the system, if you think otherwise the system has changed you


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3172391 - 09/23/04 11:28 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

i say choose non of the above by not voting. once the people stop accepting the system by doing things like this the system will loose all power and we will be able to take the power back




No if you don't vote all that will happen is:

"One vote for Martin, Two Votes for Martin. Martin wins!"

(simpsons for the unversed)


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3172438 - 09/23/04 11:34 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

I think there has been a recent change...which allows you to vote in one primary even if your registered independent.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: Tao]
    #3172460 - 09/23/04 11:37 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

no if the major majority dosent vote or accept the system the winners will have no authority and elections will die


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3172546 - 09/23/04 11:50 PM (17 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

no if the major majority dosent vote or accept the system the winners will have no authority and elections will die





is 'major majority' your way of avoiding the fact that the majority already doesn't vote? you only need one vote to validate the election. The problem with your strategy is that you do not differentiate yourself in any way from merely the apathetic.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: Tao]
    #3172595 - 09/24/04 12:00 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

well the majority dosent vote but they still accept or participate in the system and its rules. the major majority needs to break free, that way we can over power the media lies, a simple majority can be shrunk by the media


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3172768 - 09/24/04 12:30 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

I just re-registered (address change) as an independent.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3173009 - 09/24/04 01:19 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

I've signed up to work as an Elections Official, which force you to register as Democrat or Republican. I had a hard time with this, but picked democrat b/c i had to.

Though i'm registered as such for Election Official purposes, i do not believe i am on my voter registration in itself. Which i believe is a good thing.

I refuse to vote party lines. Sometimes a Rep looks good, sometimes a Dem (or a lesser evil). Local, state, and senate/house elections.. i'll probably vote 3rd/indie all the way..mostly green and libertarian.. depending on who's running. I'm after the best man currently up for the job.. not kissing some group's ass.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: ]
    #3173068 - 09/24/04 01:33 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

I'm a registered Democrat, although I tend to lean towards Independent.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3173076 - 09/24/04 01:34 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

Not voting will just get smacktards like Bush elected...


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3173093 - 09/24/04 01:38 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

As opposed to getting smacktards like Kerry elected? If you like the statist quo, vote for either Kerry or Bush, because that is what you will get.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: Evolving]
    #3173127 - 09/24/04 01:48 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

Not that i like either one, but the differences between the two, though might not be grand.. are enough for many. Though the gap between the two is shrinking everyday as Kerry attempts to take more attention to grab "middle america".

I don't particularly like McCain in the grand scheme of things.. but if he ran against.. say Hilary in 08.. he'd probably get my vote.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: Evolving]
    #3173165 - 09/24/04 01:56 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

Kerry is no prize either, I will admit. But he's better than 4 more years of Dubya. And you must admit that not voting or voting for an irregular candidate will have pretty much the same effect as voting for one of the "big two".


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3173197 - 09/24/04 02:06 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

It does and it doesn't. The 3rd party situation is a catch 22. I'd take almost anything rather than another 4 years of Bush. Cobb, Nader, and Badnarik to me are far superior to the main choices we have. If you don't vote for them.. how will they win, how will that party every win? If you do vote for them.. be prepared for more hell.

The way that i see it.. social conservatives would win every single time if the liberal vote started splitting. Alot of Democrats.. are libertarians in values.. or Green.. or love Nader. ALot of fiscal conservatives that normally go republican would vote Libertarian. With this current setup..If everyone voted the conscience, Republicans would win everytime. And with a few exceptions.. to me that'd be a horrible thing. Far worse than Democrats all the time.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #3173221 - 09/24/04 02:13 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

Indeed, indeed. I would like to see more parties in the running as they have in the European countries. Unfortunately, the two party system is so damned firmly entrenched, it'd take a miracle to dislodge them. Sad to say, but I'm choosing the lesser of two evils. Truly, I wish I had more of a choice...


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3173262 - 09/24/04 02:25 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

but if no one votes or recognises the system those tard have no power


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3173277 - 09/24/04 02:27 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

really? then why does the majority of the country not vote and they still have power and command our military? You're getting really tiresome with your off the wall crap.. i thought i cleared this up for you in another thread.

And if you're so against voting.. why is your email address registered at www.rockthevote.com for their chainletter already?


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #3173286 - 09/24/04 02:30 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

please dont flame. if the major majoruty didnt support the system it wouldnt have power

i wasnt always against voting i was sheep just like you till i woke up


Edited by AhronZombi (09/24/04 02:32 AM)


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3173311 - 09/24/04 02:40 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

You advocate our system falling. Tell me, how are you going to handle murderers? National security? you do understand if the system falls the courts fall, and the ability to enforce court ruling falls.

If don't like our system, you change the system. Get off your ass and do something.

Politicians and leaders love for people to not participate. It gives them that much more control. IF people don't participate, they will still remain in power.

Keep living your pipe dream though. Hope it's alot of fun.


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: DigitalDuality]
    #3173330 - 09/24/04 02:48 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

you cannot change the system from within or the system will change you.
people will have to governmen them selves for a while until we get things fixed but we cannot accept the current capitalist system or it will enslave all of our children for years to come. i do think you need to do something. you need to get out and educate. show people we dont have to depend on the current system. remember the first revolution only started with 5% of the country behind it


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Re: party affiliation? [Re: AhronZombi]
    #3173355 - 09/24/04 03:00 AM (17 years, 4 days ago)

If you want a land with absolutely no government.. I'm sure the crumbling middle east would be a great place for you to move to.


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