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Microwaving Rye
    #317200 - 05/14/01 05:26 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

I have several gallon jars each with 6 cups of Rye Cereal Grain and 3 1/2 cups water. Since my pressure cooker is too small for a gallon jar and the lids I have will melt in the oven, I decided to microwave them.
I did 3 minutes, shake, 2 minutes, shake, 2 minutes, shake then let cool.
As they cool, some of the water is colecting at the bottom of the jars, and I wanted to know if this is a problem... should I go buy some metal lids for the jars and stick em in the oven for a while or just shake em a few more times while they cool (they're accually still cooling right now) and use them as is...

lemmie know!!

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Re: Microwaving Rye [Re: tums]
    #317208 - 05/14/01 05:36 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Microwaving Rye [Re: ralphster44]
    #317210 - 05/14/01 05:38 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

That is not an option.

What else can I do??

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Re: Microwaving Rye [Re: tums]
    #317221 - 05/14/01 05:45 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

Use smaller jars you can pressure cook. There's nothing you can do with the microwaved rye. Wait a day or two and you'll notice that your rye will look wet, that's the start of Bacilis colonies. Rye can be a bitch to sterilize, even with an hour or pressure cooking. Nothing you can do in a microwave is going to make it work.


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Re: Microwaving Rye [Re: CowboyNeal]
    #317245 - 05/14/01 06:00 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

so... there's no chance that I could just put some metal lids on and stick em in the oven at 250 for a couple hours?

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Re: Microwaving Rye [Re: tums]
    #317459 - 05/14/01 09:44 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

if you are going to be stubborn, put em in the oven for a couple hour at 260+ deg f. tell us what happens. but chances are low. otherwise just get some smaller jars. im sure there is a reason why people mess with pressure cookers instead of using dry oven heat for sterilization, although i dont know exactly what the reason is.
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Re: Microwaving Rye [Re: McMan]
    #319013 - 05/16/01 11:38 PM (23 years, 10 months ago)

Ok... this is what I'm gonna do. I don't see exaclty why heat generated from PCing is any different then heat from a microwave or heat from an oven.

I have 6 gallon jars right now that will have 6 cups of rye and 3.5 cups water. I'm going to microwave 2 of them several times with several shakes. I'm gonna track down some metal lids and cook 2 of them in the oven for 2 hours shaking every 20-30 minutes. The other 2, I'm gonna probably end up buying a box of quart jars and just PC them normally.

I'll let both the microwave and oven jars sit in the closet with no spores or myc for a week or so and post results if they are clean to tell y'all exactly how long and how hot to sterilize them.

I understand the PCing is the most praised method of sterilization, but I don't really belive that pressure or water are the reason it works so well.

BTW...
when I get some more money together, I'll probably buy a bigger PC specifially for my gallon jars... can anybody recommend one for this size jar?

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