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Offlinedolo
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this is taking 2 long
    #3167676 - 09/23/04 12:46 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ive started a month ago but my pf tek jars havent fully conlozlized yet what can i do 2 speed along the process

1st i had 2 crush up the rice into flour so not all the rice is crushed i can see whole grains still in there

2nd i have them on a heatpad so i think i might of dried them out a little

3rd i just fliped the jars

so can some 1 help me out how much longer do i have 2 wait
im starting a new jar now i got a pc and a grinder so when i start my new ones today how long do have 2 wait


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: dolo]
    #3167722 - 09/23/04 12:53 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

it's not uncommon for jars to take a month to colonize. They should definitely colonize faster if they're kept at higher temps though (mid 80's), but if the jars are being dried out then that can cause a problem. I would recommend against putting any sort of heating element directly against the jars...


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: Cornelius]
    #3169268 - 09/23/04 11:04 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Did you take the tape off the jars? Flipping should help.. HOw long you have to wait varies depending on the conditions you keep them in (80-83 is good but too cold will take long and to hot can be really really bad), what strain your using, and water content of your jars. I'd say 2-4 weeks but longer is uncommon to wait and if your waiting 4 weeks or more then something isnt done right. You need to make sure the tape is off for gas exchange though and from now on flip them when they are about 50% done instead of waiting this long. I would imagine not breaking up the rice would actually make them colonize slightly quicker so I dont think thats such a problem.

If you got a PC you should think about doing Rye. Look for the post entitled "Rye" by Magash, its a big thread. Follow that tek, its a great one. You can do just pint or half pint jars if you want. Grains colonize much quicker because you can shake them. You dont use the dry layer of verm though, preperation is different but I find it to be a quite easy tek. Just get yourself a couple pounds of rye berries, soak them, simmer them, PC them and watch them grow...


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: dolo]
    #3169478 - 09/23/04 12:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not to be a totally raging dick head ... but ...
Pick a new hobby if you expect reults now , especially if you cant prep the materials properly .
Mushie growing requires one major skill ... PATIENCE !
Good Luck !

Keep them in a nice warm place 86*F is ideal , is moisture content of sub right ?
Many factors apply to speeed of colonization .

Patience... grasshopper is best advice I can share . And read some more !


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: tripndicular]
    #3169578 - 09/23/04 12:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well I would expect colonized jars in a month and if not post about it if I had read alot of posts on here that talk about cackes being done in under a month. Just to make sure that its natural for them to be after. I do agree patience is good but I mean he did wait a month and that shows good patience IMO to suggest picking a new hobby seems a bit extreame. And he did now get the materials to prep properly after learning he needed it so I dont think thats a valid reason for him to get a new hobby either. It's better then some people posting after 4 days when they REALLY didnt follow teks right (sticking jars in freezers and such). I agree to read more though (everyone should read more) and patience is KEY! :smile:


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3169648 - 09/23/04 01:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I heard him mention he did not grind up rice compleltly , contams in the waiting IMHO .

Do not quit trying , but following directions to a "T" is important for newbs , PATIENCE is most important , and uttering the words "This is taking too long " , is setting one self up for failure , I am the type that says if I know I am going to fail , then pick another battle , hence get a new hobby !

But I agree I sound extreme , that is why I said "Not to be a raging dick " , but ....

Extreme situations require extreme measures , a good slap a reality may be just what he needs to get it right . I wish all the best of luck when venturing into this realm , and in some cases give great info (IMO) for success .

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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: tripndicular]
    #3169675 - 09/23/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ah see I would have thought since people have used rice whole that not grinding it up would only make it less cake formed but not be a problem, havent done cakes. However it seemed like he hand grided it and said he has a grinder and PC this time to do it correctly. This to me says hes going to do it right this time as far as prep goes and wondering what the time for colonization is. I've heard from 2-4 weeks but sometimes I've heard of more. Like I said, I havnt done cakes..grains cool always takes like 2 weeks or less for quarts.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3169698 - 09/23/04 01:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I am no" baker" myself ... is that not who makes cakes ?  :blush:
But yes is good to hear he is gathering for effective tools to do the job right , hence my first theory was right . He was not patient enogh and startd this ventur prematurely . Kids and Christmas day ! Whats the fun if you peek in on mom and dad wrapping the presents  :wink:

Cousin IT once had a half pint jar take 6 weeks to show signs of growth at all , and another 4 weeks to fully colonize . That is why he will never do injection method again . Came out fine , but tried his patience ! Prints and agar are the only way he flys anymore .


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3169706 - 09/23/04 01:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

IME when doing cakes and leaving the brf slightly grainy is ok as long as you have a pc. if your steaming jars your just leaving your self open for contams. but yeah the extra air space left by the unground rice particle seems to help speed up colonization times at least IME YMMV.


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: dolo]
    #3169710 - 09/23/04 01:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Im not a Vet. to this hobby but i would suggest starting over. This time make a Karo jar and inject 10 drops from your syringe. Others might say 10 drops is too little but i have found it works out well. And this will make the syringe last for a long time. after u have myc in your karo jar. suck it up in to a clean syringe and knock up your jars.

make a tub in tub incubator VERY CHEAP well worth the money.
i would suggest trying Wild brid seed or corn or some other whole grain.


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: caimen]
    #3169751 - 09/23/04 01:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

see like i said b4 i just got the pc and the grinderso i just started a new jar a smaller jar 2 the 1st one the 1st one is really big. the myc shows no site of contams and i have like 65% of the jar conlized. the bottom of the jar has myc on the side a little bit. so my question now is can i fruit the 65% cake will this work because if i cant do this then im going to throw the cake in a flower pot or outside or something like that. and will corn really work?

ps the strain is b+


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Edited by dolo (09/23/04 01:56 PM)


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: dolo]
    #3169779 - 09/23/04 02:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

That is a big fat NOOOOOOOOOO !
Wait till jar is 100% colonized , and then give and extra day or two to birth .
Outdoor type teks are IMHO definetly for the more exp grower , and enviros will deffinetly be your worst enemy . 10 gal fish tank , rubbernaid tubs make good grow chambers . Outdoor type tek will also force you to be real patient , due to chances of failure being greater , but this also depends on your lacale .

Never tried corn teks , other than the few kernels that are in bags of milo , many have done this with great success . Stick with one tek master it , then move on to others , that way you can learn from each process and later apply what works best for you .


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Any information I give is not intended to aide you in the production of potentialy illegal substances !None of my exp comes from growing illegal varities , so take it as you will .
So with that said here is our mission statement .

Then the priest fell into a trance or swoon,& said unto the Queen of heaven ; Write unto us the ordeals; write unto us the rituals; write unto us the law !


Edited by tripndicular (09/23/04 02:04 PM)


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: tripndicular]
    #3169818 - 09/23/04 02:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Wait till theyre 100%...just stick them somewhere and forget about them..if you birth them before all that uncolonized stuff will quickly become colonized. With mold. The cakes will probably finish..they'll just need some more time. You never mentioned if you have airholes not covered by tape. If you have a dry verm layer there shouldnt be any tape on there now and your jars should be flipped upsidedown to drain the co2 better. That will drastically speed up your colonization.


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How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: tripndicular]
    #3169843 - 09/23/04 02:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

tripndicular said:
Stick with one tek master it , then move on to others , that way you can learn from each process and later apply what works best for you .



:thumbup:
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Re: this is taking 2 long [Re: dolo]
    #3171822 - 09/23/04 09:58 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have had B+ take a really freaking long time. Patience, or get some faster strain.


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