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OfflineMoxemerald
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Amanitas?
    #3167532 - 09/23/04 12:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Why is there so much controversy as to whether or not these guys are poisonous or not?

On Erowid, there is much information and say that it is fine to eat, with some nausea but why do so many people shun upon this mushroom? The trip reports on that site induced by the amanita muscaria seem a pleasant experience.


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3170132 - 09/23/04 03:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3170144 - 09/23/04 03:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think the controversy is over whether they are damaging to the liver or not. There doesn't seem to bee a definative answer about that. Also, many of the muscaria's relatives are deadly toxic, and I understand that they can be mistaken by inexperienced hunters.


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3170210 - 09/23/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

im sure youve read it if youve been on erowid but supposedly toasting amanitas (via toaster oven) helps get rid of ibotenic acid in the mushroom.


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3171727 - 09/23/04 09:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'd like to know how to grow em.


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Moxemerald]
    #3171950 - 09/23/04 10:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ive eaten them, i had 7 grams dry from a reputable vendor, they are about worthless, you have to eat too many to get a trip. and they taste like dirt, and they got this gritty shit in them.

i didnt feel a single thing when i had mine, it sucked.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3172102 - 09/23/04 10:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

They probably weren't very potent. I assumed you cooked them first in some way? or um, drank your piss. If you talk to anyone who's done them correctly, they'll tell you they aren't about worthless.

Jarrn, you can't grow them indoors or anything. Apparently mycellium will start to grow on agar, but nothing will fruit. I read it has somewhat of a symbiotic relationship with the host tree. Don't know the exact reasons.


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3172841 - 09/24/04 12:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yea its one of the few that has never been cultivated.


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3172958 - 09/24/04 01:07 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i just ate them the way they came when bouncing bear botanicals sent them, they should have worked wo/cooking, it said they was slow prepared.


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3173233 - 09/24/04 02:16 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck hey, just been getting more interested in them lately.

Back to the cubies then =)


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: JaRRn]
    #3175116 - 09/24/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

if i were you wand want to gorw find a suitable outdoor host and plant the spores via syringe. that is what me and my g/f will be doing to our front yard when we live in the northwest. let them go on their own.


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: kontron]
    #3175215 - 09/24/04 03:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you could have them colonize something else first, just to give them a start. but, doesn't it take a couple years for some actual mushrooms to pop up kontron?


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Re: Amanitas? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3176662 - 09/24/04 10:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ummm......i think it was real quik as far as fruiting in right conditions, but it takes a while for the colony to form and have just the right enviroment created for them to do so, and that is what takes the time... i could be wrong, and if i am someone plese correct me, cause when i move i am selecting our house based on the enviroment.. me and my g/f want to be able to grow a garden of eden. morning glories, salvia, pedro, torches, peyote, and even some amanitas. she wants are yard to be full of them. i figure i can create some spots where cubes can grow on their own. once the colony is established they fruit quik. at least that is what i understand. this is why people thought they were amazing. one day there was nothing, then out of nowhere this virgin is born and brings us closer to god.
the actual effects are varied from what i read. some people say it is not that grand, and others say they don't know what they are missing. i think you might only get the full efects from an actual shamanic ritual (drinking your own urine). if you would do this, then i would say eat salad and water for a week,no meats at all, then the last day just drink only water, and your piss should be okay, not nasy and full of everyday toxins. i want to try many other mind substances before i drink my own piss.


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