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Re: So, has anyone actually had success with Birdseed? [Re: psilocyber]
    #317942 - 05/15/01 03:05 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Pink;

Birdseed has worked like a charm for me the vast majority of the time, through various brands, with and without BirdKote, with and without steeping.
One thing that could be a contributor is any residual slime on the seed after hydration. You'll see this when you shake a freshly-sterilized jar and it looks like a gummy mess on the glass. Even though it may initially be 'sterile slime', such a layer can act as a wick for the bacteria [Bacillus is VERY VERY motile].
The best looking jars are the ones that are given a good steeping/soaking AND a good rinsing. Maybe you've already tried this, but it really gives nice-looking spawn without the slime.
In addition, inoculate heavy, and ASAP after cooling.
I heartily agree with workman, this is not likely an airborne vector. It is puzzling that through all your variations you're still at a 48 jar loss. Even slightly contaminated jars will sometimes survive OK and consume the contam. . .

Good luck;

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Re: So, has anyone actually had success with Birdseed? [Re: Mr. Pink]
    #318803 - 05/16/01 06:33 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)


How are you making your spore syringes?

FOAF fills them with tap water and pressure cooks them along the jars (just keep the pointy end up during cooking). After the PC has cooled down, find a CLEAN spore print, fire up the oven, Open oven door, extend wire rack, take lid of PC, reach in and grab one syringe, open spore print and place on wire rack, squirt a little water out of the syringe onto spore print, stir with tip of needle, suck water back up, repeat 2x.

Place spore syringe aside, and repeat for additional syringes.

FOAF has let the spores hydrate over night and just used the syringes straight away with no noticble difference in colinization speed in either method.

FOAF is 24 for 24 bird seed jars with no problem.

Only problem FOAF is having is contams starting in case after second flush, but since 12 1/2 pint bird seed cakes are yielding about 3.5 dry OZ in 2 flushes, FOAF is not conerned about contams after the 2nd flush :)

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