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OfflineZahid
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Islam will dominate Europe
    #3166317 - 09/22/04 08:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

by Robert Spencer
Posted Sep 16, 2004

How quickly is Europe being Islamized? So quickly that even historian Bernard Lewis, who has continued throughout his honor-laden career to be strangely disingenuous about certain realities of Islamic radicalism and terrorism, told the German newspaper Die Welt forthrightly that "Europe will be Islamic by the end of the century."

Or maybe sooner. Consider some indicators from Scandinavia this past week:

Sweden's third-largest city, Malm?, according to the Swedish Aftonbladet, has become an outpost of the Middle East in Scandinavia: "The police now publicly admit what many Scandinavians have known for a long time: They no longer control the situation in the nations's third largest city. It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants. Some of the Muslims have lived in the area of Roseng?rd, Malm?, for twenty years, and still don't know how to read or write Swedish. Ambulance personnel are attacked by stones or weapons, and refuse to help anybody in the area without police escort. The immigrants also spit at them when they come to help. Recently, an Albanian youth was stabbed by an Arab, and was left bleeding to death on the ground while the ambulance waited for the police to arrive. The police themselves hesitate to enter parts of their own city unless they have several patrols, and need to have guards to watch their cars, otherwise they will be vandalized."
The Nordg?rdsskolen in Aarhus, Denmark, has become the first Dane-free Danish school. The students now come entirely from Denmark's fastest-growing constituency: Muslim immigrants.
Also in Denmark, the Qur'an is now required reading for all upper-secondary school students. There is nothing wrong with that in itself, but it is unlikely, given the current ascendancy of political correctness on the Continent, that critical perspectives will be included.
Pakistani Muslim leader Qazi Hussain Ahmed gave an address at the Islamic Cultural Center in Oslo. He was readily allowed into the country despite that fact that, according to Norway's Aftenposten, he "has earlier make flattering comments about Osama bin Laden, and his party, Jamaat-e-Islami, also has hailed al-Qaeda members as heroes." In Norway, he declined to answer questions about whether or not he thought homosexuals should be killed.
Elsewhere in Europe the jihad is taking a more violent form. Dutch officials have uncovered at least fifteen separate terrorist plots, all aimed at punishing the Netherlands for its 1,300 peacekeeping troops in Iraq. And in Spain, Moroccan Muslims, including several suspected participants in the March 11 bombings in Madrid, have taken control of a wing of a Spanish prison. From there they broadcast Muslim prayers at high volume, physically intimidated non-Muslim prisoners, hung portraits of Osama bin Laden, and boasted, "We are going to win the holy war." The guards' response? They asked the ringleaders please to lower the volume on the prayers.

What are European governments doing about all this? France is pressing forward with an appeasement campaign to free two French journalists held hostage by jihadists in Iraq. The Swedish state agency for foreign aid is sponsoring a "Palestinian Solidarity Conference," which aims, among other things, to pressure the European Union to remove the terrorist group Hamas from the EU's list of terrorist groups -- despite Hamas's long history of encouraging and glorifying the murder of civilians by suicide bombers.

What Europe has long sown it is now reaping. Bat Ye'or, the pioneering historian of dhimmitude, the institutionalized oppression of non-Muslims in Muslim societies, chronicles in her forthcoming book Eurabia how it has come to this. Europe, she explains, began thirty years ago to travel down a path of appeasement, accommodation, and cultural abdication before Islam in pursuit of short-sighted political and economic benefits. She observes that today "Europe has evolved from a Judeo-Christian civilization, with important post-Enlightenment/secular elements, to a 'civilization of dhimmitude,' i.e., Eurabia: a secular-Muslim transitional society with its traditional Judeo-Christian mores rapidly disappearing."

After the Beslan child massacres, however, there are signs from Eastern Europe that this may be changing. Last Sunday Poland turned away one hundred Chechen Muslims who were trying to enter the country from Belarus. This is the sort of measure that the countries west of Poland have been so far unwilling to take. But since one cannot by any means screen out the jihadists from the moderate Muslims, and the moderates are not helping identify the jihadists either, what choice did the Poles have?

It might not be too long before they will have to turn away entrants from Scandinavia and France as well.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5096


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166357 - 09/22/04 08:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Do you blame them? From where I'm sitting, Islam fundamentalism seems to be nothing but a religion of hate, murder and destruction...


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Le_Canard]
    #3166379 - 09/22/04 09:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Borders nor customs will stop God's Religion.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166496 - 09/22/04 09:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Zahid, as Islam spreads - which I agree, it will do - don't you think it's going to become more Westernized? Especially in Europe?
(I happen to think this would be a good thing, but I'm assuming you don't)

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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166508 - 09/22/04 09:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"You can build a throne of bayonets, but you can't sit very long in it"


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Gijith]
    #3166519 - 09/22/04 09:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

In the Muslim world the younger Muslims are more Conservative than their parents while it's vise versa for Christians in the West.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Gijith]
    #3166528 - 09/22/04 09:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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edit: 33 motherfucking people viewing PA&L!




I noticed that too... I was quite surprised, I've never seen PA&L get more action than OTD.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166543 - 09/22/04 09:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Zahid said:
In the Muslim world the younger Muslims are more Conservative than their parents while it's vise versa for Christians in the West.



I wouldn't be too sure about that. Fundamentalization is increasing in both Christianity and Islam.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3166559 - 09/22/04 09:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, but with Christianity it's usually older generations that are getting Conservative. With Muslims, the most Conservative of them are fairly young, either in their teenage years or in their 20's/30's.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166604 - 09/22/04 09:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Zahid, I am sorry to say, but that article doesn't show Islam in a positive light at all.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166608 - 09/22/04 09:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

A Muslim saying, in this day and age, that Islam is "dominating" anything would be like a Titanic passenger talking about the horrific devistation that they inflicted upon the iceberg.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166613 - 09/22/04 09:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Zahid said:
Yes, but with Christianity it's usually older generations that are getting Conservative. With Muslims, the most Conservative of them are fairly young, either in their teenage years or in their 20's/30's.



No, I'm pretty sure it's all ages. Ever hear of Campus Crusade for Christ? It's pretty big at the college I go to.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: retread]
    #3166663 - 09/22/04 10:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

By domination = In a few centuries, the majority of human beings will be Muslims.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3166670 - 09/22/04 10:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well, from my experience younger Christians are not very Conservative.. with Christian Rock & Roll, etc. Maybe it's different in the states.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166675 - 09/22/04 10:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Not at the rate they're blowing each other up.

Who needs birth control when you can be a sleazeball and set off a bomb.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166680 - 09/22/04 10:03 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The Christian Rock crowd is quite conservative IME.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3166686 - 09/22/04 10:04 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Another hot wind comment from luvdem. Keep tryin'.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166697 - 09/22/04 10:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

In the year 2250 a young child and his father are walking through down-town New York City. They approach a monument next to a large building and the child asks his father what it means. The father replies "Well son, this spot is where the World Trade Towers stood.". The little boy thinks a minute, then says "Daddy, what are the world trade centers." His father describes the buildings and tells his son how they were destroyed by Arabs. Then the little boy looks up at his dad and says "Daddy, what are Arabs?"


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: retread]
    #3166733 - 09/22/04 10:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Seek therapy, retread.


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Re: Islam will dominate Europe [Re: Zahid]
    #3166815 - 09/22/04 10:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Zahid said:
By domination = In a few centuries, the majority of human beings will be Muslims.


That very well may be true. But how important is that stat? What language will get you the farthest learning? Which is the language of business? English. But Englsih ranks 3rd(behind Mandarin and Spanish) in number of people who speak it.


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