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Invisiblemalibu76
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How long til 2nd flush
    #3165594 - 09/22/04 06:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ok folks, I have patched my casings and they are in the fruiting chamber. How long until I get my 2nd flush?

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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: malibu76]
    #3166167 - 09/22/04 08:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

2nd flush is 5 to 8 days later :smile:


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: aussieone]
    #3166226 - 09/22/04 08:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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2nd flush is 5 to 8 days later :smile:



Yep! The myc needs time to digest some more substrate and build energy for the next flush :wink: GL


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: hyphae]
    #3166642 - 09/22/04 09:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

My second flush usually starts 3-5 days after it goes back into the fruiting chamber after a 24 hour cold dunk


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3166999 - 09/22/04 11:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There are many strains and conditions, 5-8 days is a very realistic figure. Thats a hell of a great overall average scatmanrav! Ya must be an optimum grower too :wink:


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: hyphae]
    #3169216 - 09/23/04 10:43 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Well I've only used Brazil and Z strains (to the point of actually getting flushes, I have GT's almost pinning and cambodians soon but dont know what theyll do) and they were fast colonizers. Perhaps when I move onto some other strains I shall experience a bit longer for second and third flushes. For now however I can sometimes even start seeing pins when I take off the foil after my 24 hour dunk or 3 days later but it has taken up to 5 and not more then that YET. Of course I do also wait until the caps are all turned up before harvest and I can see primordia forming alot of the times for the second flush already as I pick the first.

I try to be an "optimum grower". I do follow your pinning guide everytime because I feel it cut down a few days however I did only start this whole growing thing about 2 1/2 months ago so I'm still learning.


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3169704 - 09/23/04 01:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Your first and second flush pins are created in your initial pinset so you will see pins already formed in the casing and as your second flush bolts it is also creating the next flushes pins This is the cycle of life. I average 4-5 days myself and in later flushes (7-8) it sometimes takes longer. Z strain are notoriously agressive so 3 days is very realistic IMO I have never had the honor of raise Brazilians yet but that will change. Optimum growing not only can cut many days it will also increase yields significantly! :laugh: 2 1/2 months eh? Damn good work! I'll look forward too seeing you 15-20yrs. down the road being the master mycologist that you will be. :wink:


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: hyphae]
    #3169745 - 09/23/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

props to scat!
and malibu76!


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: george castanza]
    #3266863 - 10/23/04 04:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Did not want to make a new post but homie has had his first casing sitting in his fruiting chamber for a week with no signs of growth on his second flush. When homie harvested he did not remove the little tiny pins on the casings, should he have? Then patch and mist? Or patch mist and cold shock for 24?


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: rezzan1]
    #3266887 - 10/23/04 04:31 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes remove tiny aborts (not the fresh pins, but the ones where the caps have turned black/blue). Put some casing mix down to replace any you tore up (only in the holes, not a whole layer), mist well and back into the fruiting chamber. One week seems to not be to long..just wait it out a bit more. Make sure your giving them 12 hours of light, fanning lots and temps are around 75.

I can't wait to see where I am in 15-20 years too. All I hope is I'm not being sentenced to 15-20 years *knocking on wood* Actually hitting up 3 1/2 months now..whew..


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3266918 - 10/23/04 05:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

scat I've heard from many to dunk the casings after the first yield is picked and patched. I'm using glad containers, how would i go about doing this? Would spraying the shit out of them with H2O2 solution work the same?


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: derx]
    #3266926 - 10/23/04 05:06 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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scat I've heard from many to dunk the casings after the first yield is picked and patched.  I'm using glad containers, how would i go about doing this?  Would spraying the shit out of them with H2O2 solution work the same?




read this thread
mist it every day(not too much) to bring moisture content back to optimal :thumbup:


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: george castanza]
    #3266930 - 10/23/04 05:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the pointer george, i appreciate it. Seems like so much information passes through here daily. When i miss checking the forums 2x a day I feel like a stranger.


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Re: How long til 2nd flush [Re: derx]
    #3266931 - 10/23/04 05:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It wouldnt work the same, but should work well enough. Most of the larger growers (Hyphae, Magash, ect) I think don't dunk casings and just mist them down well (I use a little h202 in all water my mushies get, dunks, misting, humidifiers). Personally I started dunking and got good results. I've been experimenting recently without dunking however. Still inconclusive. If you would like to do it..just fill up something (I use a pitcher) with cool water and a little h202 (5-10%) then poor it over the casing until it floats. Cover with foil well and refridgerate for 24 hours. Remove and pour off water well, add new casing mix around sides and any holes made when harvesting..mist new casings mix if needed and place back into fruiting chamber. I'm not sure how much the benifit is but very little drawbacks (possible contam exposure). Personally I havn't had a rye casing contam before getting at least 4 flushes, dunking before every flush after the first. I'm very clean though so perhaps it could be a problem for someone.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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