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cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent
    #316370 - 05/13/01 03:26 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i just ate my first home grown tai koh samuri mushrooms. i ate 4.3 grams dried.. and was kinda nervous that it could be too much. i barley tripped.. i got a decent buzz.. but 4 grams... that shouldev sent me elsewhere... i quess im just spoiled . i live just outside of chicago and we get mushrooms seasonally from colorado florda and oregon.. somtimes newyork.. but i was disapointed

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #316401 - 05/13/01 04:18 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

well- I dunno what to tell you, but the shrooms I grow have sent everyone I know who've eaten them into orbit-- I have been growing the same EQ strain for a while now and let me tell you, I could easily confuse these with copelandias sometimes (well... almost)... I do grow them at temperatures colder than most people which helps, and also harvest them early, but they are absolutely incredible... I had my first "bad" mushroom trip on 2.6g (ground up on an empty stomach with a little passionflower tea), it was just too much to handle and I went completely through the roof. I gave 0.9g dry to a friend of mine the other day (with about another gram or two of aborts) and he was babbling incoherently at his peak. The point is that cubensis mushrooms aren't "not all that potent" ... their potency depends on a great deal of variables... better luck next time, maybe you should try pan cyans or trops, or I could grow some of my casing of EQs out and send a spore print :-)



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: Guyute]
    #316494 - 05/13/01 08:05 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

the strain i was growing was tai koh smauri from the hawkseye. I dunno enviormental factors seems good they were beutiful. I just didnt think they were all that.. maybe they could have dried more but i believe they were fully dry

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #316619 - 05/13/01 11:38 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

4.3 grams! unless you weigh 400 pounds you should have had an amazing trip.



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: narc monkey]
    #316630 - 05/14/01 12:20 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Even at 400lbs the trip should have been strong. Were the caps at full flower? Were the mushrooms dried right? Harvest when the caps are getting ready to break the veil, a friend has experience with the same strain and not as strong as some others(opinion) it's still a great strain when grown, harvested and dried correctly..........

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: egolesss]
    #316831 - 05/14/01 10:22 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i picked em as they opened just like staments say s in the cultivator. they were beutiful text book cubs... i just didnt think they were all that potent. im trying b+ and cambodian next maybe ill appreciate those a little more. Id just eaten gels tabs two days prior and they were dirty as hell. but ive eaten acid one day and mushrooms the next and totally lost it. As for drieing i dark dried them for 4 days or so.. i believe they were totally dried but i could be wrong

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #316843 - 05/14/01 10:36 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Cubensis are extremely potent, certain strains that I grow are almost as potent as the Azurescens I grow. No kidding. Just focus on one perticular strain and keep printing out the "bluest" in a sence. And no there are no built imunities to psilocybe. Ive gone months with every day eating handfulls, then the next day just eat like 3g and still tryp balls. Any way dont let your last batch get you down, keep on growing and tryping. eventually the potent ones will start to grow. later on, PsiLLy



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #317108 - 05/14/01 04:08 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

>i'd just eaten gel tabs two days prior

seems like you were burnt by cross tolerance my friend.



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #317243 - 05/14/01 05:56 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Judging by new's posts, I'd say he is the problem with the mushrooms. Accuracy in growing is key, and just look at the errors. (sorry, I'm a newspaper editor)

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: PsiLLy Cybe]
    #317249 - 05/14/01 06:01 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

"Cubensis are extremely potent, " lol, i think your really missinformed or have never actually had mushies, or your really full of shit. Or then again you could be joking either way your an idiot for giving this kinda bs info out.

"Ive gone months with every day eating handfulls, then the next day just eat like 3g and still tryp balls"

"keep printing out the "bluest"

"And no there are no built imunities to psilocybe. "


lololololol, funny shit. your too funny man, either get some mushies or read a book.







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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: hubertd8]
    #317286 - 05/14/01 06:28 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

No, I think he knows what he is talking about. He has a web site. http://www.infernoart.com/123/camp/Party%20Page.htm



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: hubertd8]
    #317291 - 05/14/01 06:32 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

and oh ? forgot, there is a pic of him too



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: libertycap]
    #317297 - 05/14/01 06:37 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

So anyone with a website knows what they are talking about? Go to jamisoninc.com . He doesn't sell anything in reality. There are loads of people with little websites, speaking of their sad little lives and how they worship whatever. Take that anti-masterbation webstite that was discussed in off-topic www.geocities.com/senate/capitolhill/2980.htm.

You do build tolerance, and unless you lack an immune system, eating "handfuls" of shrooms will not be enough to "tryp ballz" everyday.

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: Crasher]
    #317305 - 05/14/01 06:41 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

go check it out. its really funny :)

Edited by libertycap on 05/14/01 08:42 PM.



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: libertycap]
    #317670 - 05/15/01 01:33 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

cubensis are average to mild on potency, compared to the big-hitters like cyanescens and azurescens...hopefully ill be able to get some cyanescens spores soon i wanna start growin them soon. anybody know any good places to get cyanescens spores? like a place that you've actually bought from and they actually delivered? i dont want to be ripped

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: HB]
    #317725 - 05/15/01 04:40 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

It all depends on the person, my girlfriend trips hard at 1 gram cubies, I can have a nice at 3 grams, I have bad trips when ingesting more than 10 grams (is under investigation but limit is set here till else is experienced).
So it all depends on the person. The strain might also make a difference, like there are various cubie strains wich can all have different trips (in a way).
Copelandia's make it hard 2 sleep for me, when on cubensis ecuador I almost fall asleep right away (when finished tripping).
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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: nononsense]
    #318079 - 05/15/01 05:55 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i think it has abit more to do with the weight of the person but i guess some people might digest the mushies faster or something. But netherless tolerance does build up.



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: libertycap]
    #318082 - 05/15/01 06:02 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

my 13yo brother has a web site, anyways i went on and it still seems liek he's an idiot who has way too much time and knows very little about the subject at hand.

he's got Psilocybe cyanescens labled as simply Psilocybe mushies, i guess if you don't know teh diff then you wouldn't be able to name em properely. Besides he's giving out directions to a shrooms fest or ssomething online, is this a joke or is he a narc?



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: hubertd8]
    #318089 - 05/15/01 06:19 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like a musty trumpet narc if i ever heard one

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: HB]
    #318221 - 05/15/01 10:53 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

probably,

anyways concerning your pa or pc question i believe spore lab has P.C prints and syringes, they are really cheap 3syringes for 25 canadien and he is a good supplier(i've ordered from him) but he is rather a ass hole, but anyways unless Hawk or sporechicks have em go with Spore lab at www.sporelab.com. the main reason for ordering from him (Capt. Max @ spore labs) is price, your not going to get em any cheaper anywere else so i personally would go with him.

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: nononsense]
    #319710 - 05/17/01 09:05 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i agree that size and weight of the person do have alot to do with it . im 6'3 and 230lbs so im not little. i also did ALOT of acid when i was younger but always preferred mushroom. i quit taking acid because of the filth and figured hey im smart enought to grow mushrooms.. so i did... maybe im just a little to tolerant...or expected to much. like i said i usually only see tampanis and oregon shrooms. so idunno

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: hubertd8]
    #319944 - 05/18/01 05:14 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I guess he is just an idiot, not a narc. I mean, in addition to his moronic post about eating his EXTREMELY powerful cubensis every day, I think this web site hillarious. I?m sure we all understand that he has not the brain capacity to grow cubensis, not to talk of azurescens. Perhaps acne vulgaris though

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: libertycap]
    #320246 - 05/18/01 03:36 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

im moving this to mushroom cult.

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: Crasher]
    #320255 - 05/18/01 03:44 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

site doesn't work :frown:

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: Lazerouth]
    #320313 - 05/18/01 04:59 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

hey when did you become moderator? Is this a new name or are ya new to here in general?



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #320402 - 05/18/01 07:00 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I ate two small caps and it scared the hell out of me but I don't know what strain they were but I'm hoping they are the ones I'm growing now.



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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #320590 - 05/18/01 11:29 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)
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You must have a strong tolerance. 3.5g's will more than "Buzz" anyone.

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: Bullfrog]
    #320952 - 05/19/01 01:46 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

he would but hes eating the wrong mushrooms. who ever heard of the species cubinis, and the strain of that tai koh samuri????? just bustin your balls dude, sorry if this offended you cause i didnt mean it that way ;)
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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: WhereAbouts]
    #321601 - 05/20/01 12:14 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i just ate my second flush yesterday. i ingested 51 grams wet. I was gone for a good 6 hours. the buzz lasted from 11 in the mourn strong till 430 or 500. not alot of visuals but an extream mind fuck

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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: PsiLLy Cybe]
    #789582 - 08/01/02 12:13 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

You have no fucking clue mate! There is no way in heaven or hell that Psilocybe Cubensis could ever even REMOTELY be comparable in potency to Ps.Azurescens - one thing i cant stand is someone who jsut has no fucking clue.
Example:
cubensis require 4grams dry for a strong experience
pan cyans requrie about two grams for the same effect
Ps.Subaeruginosa require about 1.2 grams for the same effect
Ps.Australiana require about 0.5 grams for the same effect.
Psilocybe Cyanescens amd Ps.Azurescens are reportedly more potent than Australiana - you be the judge!!
Cubensis are NOT a potent mushroom, just the easiest to cultivate.


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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: PsiLLy Cybe]
    #789619 - 08/01/02 01:27 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Cubensis are extremely potent, certain strains that I grow are almost as potent as the Azurescens I grow. No kidding. Just focus on one perticular strain and keep printing out the "bluest" in a sence. And no there are no built imunities to psilocybe. Ive gone months with every day eating handfulls, then the next day just eat like 3g and still tryp balls. Any way dont let your last batch get you down, keep on growing and tryping. eventually the potent ones will start to grow. later on, PsiLLy




What a load of BS! Cubensis aren?t potent at all, they are just easy to cultivate as said before. Your body does build immunity to psilocybe, I mean everyone here agrees it does, maybe your just WRONG . As for your "tryp balls" after eating "handfuls" every day that?s the biggest load of shit you've said in your post.

As for the 1st poster who had a minor experience off 4 g, the cross-tolerance hit you. It wasn?t your immunity or weight that hit you it was the damn LSD - psilocybe cross-tolerance. If you trip off acid and try tripping of mushies a day later you probably will get a very minor/not noticeable experience. Trust me I know, iv had the same problem.

Try waiting a week minimum and eating some more of your home grown
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Re: cubinis mushrooms? not all that potent [Re: new945]
    #789683 - 08/01/02 02:54 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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maybe they could have dried more




if the shrooms were not dried all the way your 4.3 grams was probably substancially less then you thought. fresh shrooms weigh about 10x more then fully dried shrooms. so even if they had just a little water in them the 4.3 grams could have been way off. that would be my bet.


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