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OfflineTestify
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Help me prove him wrong please!
    #3162360 - 09/21/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, Ok so my friend keeps telling me that shrooms are posionous. Obviously someone could poison them right. But if you know where you are getting them you are fine right?

What are the BAD effects of shrooms? Are there any?

I know there are posts about logn term effects and that. But I woudl just like a brief answer stating the BAD effect. Brain, liver damage etc? if any?

Thanks alot. Really appreciated!


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3162375 - 09/21/04 11:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Water is poison.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3162380 - 09/21/04 11:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Shrooms are BEYOND POISON!!!  :smile:


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: MOTH]
    #3162390 - 09/21/04 11:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

what the flip?! lol .. like i've read on here and Erowid no bad effects. So why are they illegal?!


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3162433 - 09/21/04 11:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

They are illeagal because the man doesn't want you to see God.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3162443 - 09/21/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

As Bill Hicks would say, they are illegal because they make you realize how you are being fucked over everyday of your life....


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: barfightlard]
    #3162488 - 09/21/04 11:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I enjoy all these smart answers. I guess that's what I get for asking the dumb questions.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3162521 - 09/21/04 11:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't considering them a poison because it's extremely hard to overdose and die on them.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3162878 - 09/22/04 12:59 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If not impossible. You'd have to eat around your own body weight in shrooms. Maybe they've heard of Amanita shrooms, which are actually classified as poisonous. There are tons and tons of poisonous mushrooms in the world. Psilocybe Cubensis are not. Unless of course you're classifying all mind altering substances as poisonous.

Webster's Dictionary defines a poison as
"a substance that through its chemical action usually kills, injures, or impairs an organism b (1) : something destructive or harmful (2) : an object of aversion or abhorrence"

4-HO-DMT, psilocin is the chemical responsible for making you trip. It tinkers with your seratonin receptors. (5-HT2A, if its in fact the same as LSD, etc)

If tripping is considered being impaired, then I suppose it could be a "poison", if the definition does in fact mean in a short term matter. By this standard, enough of anything could be a poison.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #3163165 - 09/22/04 02:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for aserious answer.

you let your friend read up on erowid :laugh:


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3163550 - 09/22/04 04:41 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

They are illegal because people with no respect for mushrooms gobble them down hoping to see some "funny shit" and are tormented and end up in a mental ward.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3163555 - 09/22/04 04:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

a long time ago, posted on this site, the only noted side effect was a slight advancing of the aging process.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: felix]
    #3163682 - 09/22/04 06:49 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder if it was someone's opinion or it came from an actual research?


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3167335 - 09/22/04 11:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The shrooms ARE poisonous, but not in a way that'll kill ya...


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3170519 - 09/23/04 05:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Mushrooms are poisonous to the ego.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: felix]
    #3171092 - 09/23/04 07:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

mentally or phsyically?


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Testify]
    #3171109 - 09/23/04 07:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Everything is poisonous at high enough doses. But you'd have to eat a hell of a lot of shrooms before you reached toxic levels.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: Paou]
    #3172126 - 09/23/04 10:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I dont see how anybody could die off mushroom "poisioning" unless they intentionally wanted to. Like mentioned, it would take close to your own body weight to be toxic to you. Now, way before you reach your own body weight, your going to be puking that stuff out because your stomach cant hold that much material. As long as your not puking then eatting more then puking then eatting more, I'd say its no possible to die.


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: keepontruckin]
    #3172419 - 09/23/04 11:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

keepontruckin said:
I dont see how anybody could die off mushroom "poisioning" unless they intentionally wanted to.




you could identify a mushroom incorrectly. or your mushrooms might get contaminated. however, you are right, so long as the mush is good, you won't die. unless you do something stupid, but that wasn't the mush that killed you ...


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Re: Help me prove him wrong please! [Re: jux]
    #3172491 - 09/23/04 11:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I believe there have been a few cases of people dying from them.


Although I suspect they probably were allergic.


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