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really odd problem
    #3157637 - 09/20/04 10:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ok.. I recently did 12 PF style jars with some spores.. nothing unusual or out of the ordinary. I purchased some new casing containers to put them in - reusable gladware type containers (i forget the brand, I will post when I find out). I also used one of my normal containers (aluminum).

I put a pint in each of the new casing containers and cased it with coir/verm and put them into the incubator. I did the identical procedure on some foil containers as well. both sets of casings used the same batch of cakes, spores, and pasteurized casing material.

here is where it gets weird. there has been ZERO growth after 2+ weeks in the plastic containers. One of them has contamed to shit and got ditched. The other looks as if I just cased it. The foil container casings are both fine, and are pinning like crazy.

I cleaned all of the containers (foil + plastic) in the exact same way, and at the same time.

anyone ever hear of the container causing problems?

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Re: really odd problem [Re: deviation]
    #3157651 - 09/20/04 10:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

did you sterilize the containers and is the casing able to breathe


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Re: really odd problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3157899 - 09/20/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I never sterilize my casing trays other than wiping them out with alcohol. What did you do to clean them? Plastic has a tendency to create a static charge that attracts dust like a magnet if not using the proper cleaner. Rubbing alcohol is a good cleaner for plastics BTW. reguardless there should still be growth into the casing you would think? There may be something insignificant that you are overlooking? GL


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Re: really odd problem [Re: deviation]
    #3157931 - 09/20/04 11:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like bacteria... how do they smell? Like mushrooms or more sour?


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Re: really odd problem [Re: Rose]
    #3158021 - 09/20/04 11:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

More than likely contamed like the other one, but as to why. Dust? or something else that maybe is being overlooked?


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Re: really odd problem [Re: hyphae]
    #3158152 - 09/20/04 11:58 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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I never sterilize my casing trays other than wiping them out with alcohol.




:what:

I sterilize everything, whether it be with steam, bleach or alcohol...


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Re: really odd problem [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3158187 - 09/21/04 12:07 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ok I always sterilize my casing trays with alcohol, ya that sounds a bit more proper. :wink: Call me a airhead! LOL


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Re: really odd problem [Re: hyphae]
    #3158200 - 09/21/04 12:11 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Weird, did you maybe put foil on the foil ones and the lids to the plastic ones? That would cause the plastic ones not the be able to breathe and the otherones too...


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Re: really odd problem [Re: hyphae]
    #3158210 - 09/21/04 12:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Call me a airhead! LOL




sorry... I'be been picking on OTD today... and Cervantes beat me too it...


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Re: really odd problem [Re: Rose]
    #3161397 - 09/21/04 08:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ahh thank you for the feedback.. the one that contamed did smell kind of sour before it showed nasty growth.

I did clean the container with rubbing alcohol first, as I do with all of my casings.

I am guessing maybe that lack of air killed it? I put the plastic lid back on tight, whereas the foil ones had tinfoil on them. Could that have been part of why the other one didn't go?

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Re: really odd problem [Re: deviation]
    #3164437 - 09/22/04 01:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yep, they need gas exchange. I tried out using the lid and also got no growth. Moved to tin foil for thetop of it and it was ready in 3 days (after waiting a week previously in the incubator with no white comming up). Always use tin foil or syran wrap or something so it can breathe.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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