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    #3152332 - 09/18/04 11:32 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ok I have done searches and went through the first 15 pages in the advanced section and I was still wondering in everyones opinion since I inocculated my Azurescens on Brf and they are colonizing fine!
But some has brought to my attention that Azurescens are a wood lover and that they will not friut for me on the brf!So my question to yall is should I take and case them out on a wood(adler)casing now 2nd and what should I cover the wood with ? 3r d Should I pressure cook and sterilize the adler or just soak in water? 4th should I PC the covering on my casing
Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated!




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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3153169 - 09/19/04 02:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Are you doing an indoor only or outdoor? Indoor things will need to be sterile outdoor they do not your BRF can be used as spawn although the bugs and animals will want to get into it pretty badly so protecting it is important, I myself would wait to see if ya have any problems before worrying about pests though. :wink: GL and those jars deserve 5 shrooms!!!! very nice


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: hyphae]
    #3153563 - 09/19/04 09:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I will be growing them indoors, Now on wood chips that are pc'd When you say "spawn" what do you mean plz? There are several terms I am still unfamiliar with.
I still am unsure of what to do actually just crumble my cakes into smal pieces over the wood .....is that right ?
And what should I cvr them in? what substrate verm? or what?


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3153578 - 09/19/04 09:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3153618 - 09/19/04 09:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I just seen that glossary just after I posted lol I have spawn and didnt even know wtf I had lol Well Im doing better than what I thought Im half way home so to speak eh Soon as these colonize all the way Ill be good to go to put them on wood as far as I can read about!!!!!! :tongue2:


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3154785 - 09/20/04 02:12 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Place a layer of soaked chips down then spawn (crumbled cakes) then more soaked chips and by soaked we're talking days :wink: Azures do not need a casing layer.


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3154961 - 09/20/04 03:18 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

nice cakes!

mind telling mw what method you used, im particularly interested in the inoculation, wedge or syringe? also can you tell me how you inoculated.
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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: OOISI]
    #3157360 - 09/20/04 09:10 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yes sir I used a  :syringe: and I used BRF and drilled 4 holes in my lid and I used 1/4 cc per hole and I watched it ease down the side of my jar! I was like  :cussing:  because it took a while for the spawn to come on I left them in my garage in these warm days we have had lately and they come on strong! My 1 jar looks bad but doesnt smell still Sweet smell  if any at all.


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: hyphae]
    #3157366 - 09/20/04 09:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hey hyphae The only chips I could find was "with smoke" flavor added does this matter? lol shroom ala smoke flavor yuck! :smile:


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3157904 - 09/20/04 11:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thats great, man! I think I will try that. I always thought I couldnt grow them. This gives me hope. So let me get this straight, its pure BRF not like the PF tek? What was your colonization time so far? I see tape or someting in your picture. I wonder if tyvek filter would help colinization time? And hyphae, what do you think about a thin layer of wet verm over the top of the casing to keep moisture in and for protection? Would that be a good idea? Wood shavings or chips?


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3158248 - 09/21/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

He used the PF Tek, he talked about it in another forum. He didnt know any better and I doubt that it will actually work so dont get your hopes up yet ahahaha, its never been done before to my knowledge (Azures indoor on PF cakes).


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3158332 - 09/21/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The myc looks like it's doing pretty damn good except for a couple jars. I doubt they'll fruit but I know they'll make great spawn for an OD, I have done Azures PF style with sawdust/bran but that doesn't fruit by itself so I also believe they more than likely will not fruit but just imagine if they did! I just like the idea of the "what if"! :wink:


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3158633 - 09/21/04 01:55 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

>He didnt know any better and I doubt that it will actually work

P. azurescens colonizes standard pf tek jars in 3-4 weeks at room temperatures from spores.


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: AhHaHaHa]
    #3158985 - 09/21/04 06:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah there right I dont have a clue on what Im doing ..........call it luck or what you will but im gonna put the spawn on wood chips.
In the beginning I didnt know that azurscens needed wood so I just did them on brf,being a newb.So what I need to fruit them on wood so what
I think that Im doing better than most and it is suprisisng the fuck outa everyone!
So with that said Id like to thank everyone for there inputs and  Dont say I didnt know what I was doing Say I got lucky sounds better.
Id rather be lucky than good anyday :mushroom2:
Oh and the innoc period was 1 month!


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3158988 - 09/21/04 06:35 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Did you read www.fungifun.org/azurescens already?


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: Anno]
    #3159650 - 09/21/04 02:21 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I meant I doubted that he would get them to fruit, only because I remember him from his other thread and didnt relize that he had ordered a completly different species until it was already colonizing and he had gotten some responses. At least your spawning them to woodchips :thumbup: I wish you all the luck, if you get them to fruit to be carful they're like 2-3 times as potent as cubensis (the shrooms you usually see around like your other strain).


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3160020 - 09/21/04 03:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you will find that unless you can regulate temps indoors to the 50 to 60 degree range, you wont fruit the azurescens. best bet is to use your brf cakes to innoculate soaked alder, then transfer to the great outdoors. azures dont need a casing layer, but a nice layer of soaked straw or leaf litter over the top of your patch will help protect it from frost damage as well as help keep it moist. they need to be outside. years ago, I bought what was supposedly azure spores from jlf, and fruited indoors, but they were actually what is now known as the plantasia strain of cubensis.


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: Anno]
    #3160129 - 09/21/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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>He didnt know any better and I doubt that it will actually work

P. azurescens colonizes standard pf tek jars in 3-4 weeks at room temperatures from spores.


Mine took close to 60 days to full col. that was using sawdust/bran now if I could cut that in half that would be a Godsend for sure! I fruited indoor during the winter in a poorly insulated sealed off bedroom using what a call my "Biodome". The room stayed at 55 degrees constantly (it is located in a bedroom on the northside of the house) And works perfect. This year it's all OD in zone 4 no less! :wink: Heres a pic of the Biodome which I've made fully automated. In the pic the hose hasn't been cut to length yet which is about 6-8in. above the substrate level.



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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: azurescen]
    #3160780 - 09/21/04 05:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

very nice info going on here thank you
I just put all my jars in a rubbermaid with a seedling heat mat  in it they will not take long now the jars are warm to the touch and I see where myc can get tp places easier now that the cakes are loosened up a little!
I am so excited Im so close!!!!! patience danielson :thumbup:


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Re: Azurescens / wood chip tek [Re: JAMIEK]
    #3163418 - 09/22/04 03:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

> just put all my jars in a rubbermaid with a seedling heat mat

Why? This is not P. cubensis! They won't colonize faster if the temperature is in the range that is optimum for P. cubensis.


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