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PA clergy call for genocide of Jews
    #3151789 - 09/18/04 08:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND
PA clergy call for genocide of Jews
Use TV broadcasts to urge killing of 'brothers of the monkeys and pigs'

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Posted: September 16, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern



? 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Twice in three days, Palestinian television has shown religious leaders calling for the mass killing of Jews.

Both clerics said such a slaughter is a necessary stage in history and must be carried out quickly, reported Palestinian Media Watch. Each cited the same Hadith, Islamic tradition attributed to Muhammad.

Palestinian leaders traditionally have taught that the following Hadith applies today:


The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. And the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!
Says Palestinian Media Watch: "This teaching may well be a dominant motivating factor that drives terror against Israeli civilians, because it presents the killing of Jews as a religious obligation, not related to the conflict over borders, but as something inherent to Allah's world."

Sheik Ibrahim Madiras' sermon of last Friday was broadcast the same day on PA TV.

Madiras declared, "The Prophet said: The Resurrection will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Muslims kill them. The Muslims will kill the Jews, rejoice [in it], rejoice in Allah's Victory. The Muslims will kill the Jews, and he will hide.

"The Prophet said: The Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: oh servant of Allah, oh Muslim this is a Jew behind me, come and kill him! Why is there this malice? Because there are none who love the Jews on the face of the earth: not man, not rock and not tree; everything hates them. They destroy everything ? they destroy the trees and destroy the houses. Everything wants vengeance on the Jews, on these pigs on the face of the earth, and the day of our victory, Allah willing, will come."

Two days later, on Sept. 12, Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Maadi made the following comment on his weekly television show:

"We are waging this cruel war with the brothers of the monkeys and pigs, the Jews and the sons of Zion. The Jews will fight you and you will subjugate them. Until the Jew will stand behind the tree and rock. And the tree and rock will say: oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!"

The reference to monkeys and pigs is from a story in the Quran that claims Jews were cursed by Allah and turned into monkeys and pigs.



http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40470


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: zip]
    #3151866 - 09/18/04 09:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Back so soon, Great_Satan?


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: silversoul7]
    #3151873 - 09/18/04 09:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not Great_Satan.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: zip]
    #3151875 - 09/18/04 09:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Or Ed1. Whatever you used to call yourself. Welcome back.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: zip]
    #3152553 - 09/19/04 12:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So Palestinian religious leaders want to commit genocide on the Jews ... whats new?


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: DieCommie]
    #3154003 - 09/19/04 10:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Palestine doesn't have religious leaders.

Unless you're talking about Rabbis that call for the Arabs to be killed and expelled.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3154114 - 09/19/04 11:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)


Palestine doesn't have religious leaders.

Unless you're talking about Rabbis that call for the Arabs to be
killed and expelled.

So when the powerful Hamas movement states that its goal is the
destruction of the "Zionist entity" and all of the "occupiers"...that
doesn't count?


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3154145 - 09/19/04 11:21 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hamas doesn't have any power. They fight the poor man's war with human bombs.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3154178 - 09/19/04 11:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)


Hamas doesn't have any power. They fight the poor man's war with
human bombs.


Having the ability to strike at targets on a regular basis, and
inflict significant casualties, is power. Having hundreds of
thousands of Palestinian supporters is power. Rivaling the
Palestinian authority in the amount of influence it has is power.
Being able to strike fear into the heart of every Israeli is power.
Getting aid from other countries and individuals(Iran, private
contributions from Saudis, etc..) to help fight your struggle is
power.

Hamas has power.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3154199 - 09/19/04 11:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:

Hamas doesn't have any power. They fight the poor man's war with
human bombs.


Having the ability to strike at targets on a regular basis, and
inflict significant casualties, is power. Having hundreds of
thousands of Palestinian supporters is power. Rivaling the
Palestinian authority in the amount of influence it has is power.
Being able to strike fear into the heart of every Israeli is power.
Getting aid from other countries and individuals(Iran, private
contributions from Saudis, etc..) to help fight your struggle is
power.

Hamas has power.




That was like.. so two years ago that Hamas had the ability to scare Israel.. now it takes them half a year to retaliate to something as major as the killing of one of their leaders.

And btw, Iran funds Hizbollah, who fights Israel the fair and square way. They have never carried out a single suicide bombing of Israeli civilians.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3154200 - 09/19/04 11:35 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Zahid said:
Palestine doesn't have religious leaders.

Unless you're talking about Rabbis that call for the Arabs to be killed and expelled.




http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2004/683/re1.htm
Quote:


Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, spiritual leader to many Palestinians, was martyred Monday, his body badly mutilated, when an Israeli Apache helicopter fired three missiles at the 68-year-old wheelchair-bound Palestinian cleric as he was leaving his neighborhood mosque in central Gaza shortly after dawn prayer.




Just so you all know, this is a Hamas terrorist that was killed. Looks like he was a "spiritual leader", according to a newspaper published in Cairo, Egypt.

http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/personalities/chrono05.htm
Quote:


YASSIN, SHEIKH AHMAD (1937-)
Palestinian religious leader; Muslim brother and preacher; born in 1937 in Ashqelon; refugee in Gaza since 1948; worked as teacher, preacher and community worker; completely paralyzed following an accident in his youth; founder of the Islamic Centre in Gaza in 1973 which soon controlled all religious institutions; creator, spiritual leader and key figure of HAMAS, the Islamic Resistance Movement in the OPT; detained since May 1989; believes that Palestine belongs to Islam and advocates an Islamic state in all of Palestine.





It seems that this Hamas terrorist is the one of the people that the Islamicist's portray as a "religious leader". Are they lying?


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: retread]
    #3154209 - 09/19/04 11:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

retread said:
Quote:

Zahid said:
Palestine doesn't have religious leaders.

Unless you're talking about Rabbis that call for the Arabs to be killed and expelled.




http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2004/683/re1.htm
Quote:


Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, spiritual leader to many Palestinians, was martyred Monday, his body badly mutilated, when an Israeli Apache helicopter fired three missiles at the 68-year-old wheelchair-bound Palestinian cleric as he was leaving his neighborhood mosque in central Gaza shortly after dawn prayer.




Just so you all know, this is a Hamas terrorist that was killed. Looks like he was a "spiritual leader", according to a newspaper published in Cairo, Egypt.

http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/personalities/chrono05.htm
Quote:


YASSIN, SHEIKH AHMAD (1937-)
Palestinian religious leader; Muslim brother and preacher; born in 1937 in Ashqelon; refugee in Gaza since 1948; worked as teacher, preacher and community worker; completely paralyzed following an accident in his youth; founder of the Islamic Centre in Gaza in 1973 which soon controlled all religious institutions; creator, spiritual leader and key figure of HAMAS, the Islamic Resistance Movement in the OPT; detained since May 1989; believes that Palestine belongs to Islam and advocates an Islamic state in all of Palestine.





It seems that this Hamas terrorist is the one of the people that the Islamicist's portray as a "religious leader". Are they lying?




Sheikh Yassin hardly would qualify as a religious leader.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3154226 - 09/19/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So you think that the press in Palestine and Egypt are lying to their people?


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: retread]
    #3154236 - 09/19/04 11:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

retread said:
So you think that the press in Palestine and Egypt are lying to their people?




Probably, I've never heard of an honest press - not in the west, or in the old countries.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3154310 - 09/20/04 12:03 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

That guy sure comes up in a LARGE number of matches for "palestinian spiritual leader"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...G=Google+Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...amp;btnG=Search


Guess who for "religious"...


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3154686 - 09/20/04 01:35 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)


And btw, Iran funds Hizbollah, who fights Israel the fair and square
way. They have never carried out a single suicide bombing of Israeli
civilians.

I know Iran funds Hizbollah. I also remember a ship with anti-tank
mines and C-4 that was intercepted by the Israelis before it got to
the Palestinians. Evidence pretty much pointed to Iran as I remember.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: retread]
    #3154950 - 09/20/04 03:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Googlism is a trend, not a religion...

Even Fox boasts the insult to injury that Yassin is considered a 'spiritual leader' by western presses.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3155570 - 09/20/04 02:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So of the 90,000+/- links from Google that my search resulted, alot of them being A-rab presses, all of THEM are lying and misrepresenting the Palestinean struggle, while you are the true reckoner of who is or isn't a "leader". Does Arafat know you are usurping his authority like this?


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: retread]
    #3156711 - 09/20/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Please, provide us with with Yassin's clerical certificate - his studies in Medina, and Pakistan that most people have to go through to become learned in Islamic studies. This is what determines a spiritual leader, cleric, imam, scholar. Yassin is like Dr. Phil, who isn't really a doctor. It's like OBL... the guy calls himself a Sheikh, but he's just an angry rich Saudi who's not even qualified in the slightest to deliver fatwas.


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Re: PA clergy call for genocide of Jews [Re: Zahid]
    #3157159 - 09/20/04 08:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Damn false fatwas!

The wikipedia states that Yassin wasn't truely a shiek by working for it, he was given the honorable title by his followers, presumably Hamas. It states that the reason he wasn't a shiek was because he did no attend a madrassa. Do you think that the majority of madrassi in the area he grew up preaches the "extreme" form of Islam that you say you are against? The RoP? that encourages beating wives, owning women, killing infidels, 72 virgins for martyrs is the form of RoM? that I believe is being taught in most of those madrassas. True or no?


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