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Offlinekontron
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Trip Levels and reality
    #3150020 - 09/17/04 10:53 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

my g/f's best frined and me were talking about tripping the other day, and she explained to me that she no longer uses any kind of pschadelic drugs cause her trips were too crazy. she said she never realy had a bad trip or even scary ones, but she would see dead relatives and such. she told me that she went in to take a piss while on lsd, she looked up after washing her hands and saw her dead grand father sitting on the tub. he said look i taught the cat a new trick, and pointed to a dinner plate with a pile of cat shit on it.
i thought this was pretty funny myself. what a random thing to see. she didnt really say much other then she freaked out and had a bad night. she said there were a few other times where she would see people that she new that would be there, and then just gone. this leads me to the question about trip levels...
what are they exactly? is there a level you reach where you can see things like this, or would this be more prone to a mental illness ( i am sure she may get at some point from heredity any how).
how would you scale a trip level? or catagorize it???? i know i am not very high on the scale, but curious as to how "trip levels" are defined.


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Re: Trip Levels and reality [Re: kontron]
    #3150301 - 09/18/04 12:33 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

heres two different psychedelic experience rating scales ...... these are how most people will rate their experience

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/11

this is shulgin's scale

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/shulgin_rating_scale.shtml


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Re: Trip Levels and reality [Re: kontron]
    #3150725 - 09/18/04 03:11 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It don't think there's a level you have to reach to see visions like that per-se. My firend see stuff like that all the time, even on lower dosages. Mostly he sees people and realitives that have passed away when we're chilling in a dark room. Sometimes it bothers him a lot, sometimes he thinks it's cool. Some people are just wired differently I guess. I myself have never experienced anything like the fore-mentioned


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Re: Trip Levels and reality [Re: djd586]
    #3151097 - 09/18/04 10:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the link. yeah i think the girl may have an underlying metnal illness she's not aware of (or she is and just doesnt say). that is why i ask if it is possible to see things like that, and not just have scitzo fever breaking out.


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Re: Trip Levels and reality [Re: kontron]
    #3151098 - 09/18/04 10:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

so by the chart on the first link i have reached level 4 briefly before being snapped back. when i reached that level for that short period i was tottaly lost and confused i can recall very clearly the struggle inside my head. at the time i had no knowledge of ego loss.. but now i do and think i can let go easier with time.


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