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the "roots" of crime...
    #3148994 - 09/17/04 05:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"The idea that child poverty is responsible for crime has always been silly. To start with, poverty (as opposed to squalor) has been virtually eliminated in the Western world. Furthermore, many countries in which real poverty does exist, such as India and China, don't exhibit this social pathology...

Yet for all this talk about the root causes of crime, there is one factor which overwhelms all of the others: fatherlessness. The link between fatherlessness and crime is so strong that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship between race and crime and between low income and crime...

Consider these facts:

* 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (U.S. Center for Disease Control);
* 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes (U.S. Bureau of the Census);
* 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes (Criminal Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26, 1978);
* 70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988);
* 85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home (Texas Dept. of Corrections 1992).


In fact, you can pick a social ill at random and you will find that the correlation with fatherlessness is clear and direct. Depression. Suicide. Dropping out of school. Teenage pregnancy. Drug use. In sum, fatherless children are:

* 5 times more likely to commit suicide;
* 32 times more likely to run away;
* 20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders;
* 14 times more likely to commit rape;
* 9 times more likely to drop out of high school;
* 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances;
* 9 times more likely to end up in a mental institution;
* 20 times more likely to end up in prison(1)."

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Re: the "roots" of crime... [Re: ]
    #3149103 - 09/17/04 06:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I have to agree...


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    #3149147 - 09/17/04 06:25 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Does this study consider people adopted by lesbian couples as "fatherless"?


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Re: the "roots" of crime... [Re: silversoul7]
    #3149162 - 09/17/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
Does this study consider people adopted by lesbian couples as "fatherless"?




I think it depends on the dykeness of one of the lezbos.


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Re: the "roots" of crime... [Re: silversoul7]
    #3149163 - 09/17/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
Does this study consider people adopted by lesbian couples as "fatherless"?




I think it depends on the dykeness of one of the lezbos.


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Re: the "roots" of crime... [Re: silversoul7]
    #3149360 - 09/17/04 07:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you're a sociology major, no?

what do you think about this?


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    #3149427 - 09/17/04 07:42 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's very compelling, but I'm wondering if "single-parent" households would be a better description than "fatherless" households. Does it really have to do with having a male parent present, or is it just having two parents? I understand that the number of children raised by lesbian couples is negligible, but I'm just curious about whether the gender of the parents plays a role here.


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Re: the "roots" of crime... [Re: silversoul7]
    #3149431 - 09/17/04 07:44 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Fathers are a powerful force to be reckoned with in a child's world. I really wouldn't doubt it.

edit: of course every girl i can think of who had just a father is either a huge tomboy or some sort of stripper/hooker.


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Re: the "roots" of crime... [Re: silversoul7]
    #3149503 - 09/17/04 08:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ask my wife about how children respond to a man vs. a woman - it's much easier to get them to follow my wishes than hers (corporal punishment has nothing to do with it). Boys need to learn how to responsibly channel their male impulses - how can a woman teach this to a boy when she has no experience of what it means to be a man? (please spare me tales of trans-sexuals) Girls need empathy from an adult woman who understands their psychological and emotional needs as well as the physical ramifications of female maturation - most men are ill equipped for this. Children also learn about the opposite sex from having both parents in the home. I think that there are important qualities from both sexes that are helpful in the psychological development of children, men and women compliment each other in so many ways.


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