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InvisibleMykro_Guy
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can you do that?
    #3148692 - 09/17/04 02:37 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

is there anything wrong with putting a heater and the jars in the same plastic tub? like using a submersable heater and filling it with a lil water and placing the jars around the heater

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Re: can you do that? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
    #3148739 - 09/17/04 02:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

why would you want to do that. just set in a sunny place and it will warm the inside of the container..if you only have one container,but it is bet to follow the tecks that are listed on the site.but it is allways fun to hear of peoples experments so try it tell us what you find out....

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Re: can you do that? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
    #3148924 - 09/17/04 03:28 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

You won't get a very stable temperature with either the method you were asking about, or the other suggestion. Tub-in-tub is the ONLY way to do it right. If you don't do it that way, then you'll be complaining in a week and a half when nothing has happened in your jars yet, and we will tell you again to build a tub-in-tub. C'mon, it's $20 worth of stuff, and if you already have a fully submersible heater then it's like $6. And if you already have a tub and a heater then it's $3 for another tub.

In other words, there is no good reason to not put together a tub-in-tub the right way. So just do it. If there were any other way that worked as reliably we would be telling you to do it that way then instead of tub-in-tub. If your temps are not locked in at 80-82F degrees, you will be waiting longer (probably, MUCH longer) for things to happen, if they happen at all.

Or, that's my opinion anyway.


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Re: can you do that? [Re: Spudz76]
    #3148943 - 09/17/04 03:34 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

i already got 2 tubs. i have a 100w heater that has a temp range tht was to weak so i bought a 30$ 300 watt heater that shuts off after it hits 80 deg. when i tryed that tub on tub method the second tub didnt hit 70deg. im not sure how to get it warm in there.

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Re: can you do that? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
    #3148963 - 09/17/04 03:40 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm...im gonna be using one tub and a heating pad w/ perlite and bubble stone.

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Re: can you do that? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
    #3149019 - 09/17/04 03:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

i have to put a towl over jars in tub sometimes, cold days i put one over the tub also

but i also think i can raise temp on my fish tank heater its a 50w or 100w and my tub is 66gl i got evry thing at walmart, cuz it was to hot at one point.

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Re: can you do that? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
    #3149169 - 09/17/04 04:31 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

A 300 watt will heat things up, the water takes time to warm up (24hrs.). Like Spudz said heating pad or window heating is definitely not a smart thing to do at all, number one a dark tub could heat up well over 100+ degrees possibly killing everything inside not to mention big drop in temp as the sunlight loses contact and that heating pad will give you one hell of a fluctuating temp neither are wanted as you are looking for stable temps (82-84F.) TnT is the best way and you have everything already! :wink: GL :laugh: My suggestion, just do it.

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Re: can you do that? [Re: hyphae]
    #3149490 - 09/17/04 06:04 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

ok ok im sold tub in tub was at wally world just tonight telling my girl as we birthday shop for the brat..i need these wide mouth qaurt jars,not going for the small half pints they just sem like they will produce a good hearty batch..i don't want like 12 jars at 1 time growing..i seen loads of tubs i get so excited in the day when i get to be a true trooper to the art of life..growing shroomies...lol

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Re: can you do that? [Re: hyphae]
    #3149537 - 09/17/04 06:18 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

kool man your post answer alot of my concerns. i had tried the tnt tek and took a temp reading after one hour. didnt know it took that long to heat things up. thanx again man

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Re: can you do that? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
    #3149627 - 09/17/04 06:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

It may even stabilize in as little as 12hrs. but the point is you'll need to get a thermometer in the incubator to fine tune the temp setting. Usually takes me a day (24hrs) to get it perfect (82-84F.) And djred it always best to learn to walk before you fly and a tub full of cakes can yield quite well if you listen to the pros. :wink:


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Re: can you do that? [Re: Mykro_Guy]
    #3150322 - 09/17/04 10:40 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

man, i indubated ina clothes hamper in my closet witha space heater. theres no set wya of doing things in mycology


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