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InvisibleMoonshoe
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    #3148680 - 09/17/04 04:34 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: How many times... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3148767 - 09/17/04 04:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I look to others for a new prospective but everything I take in has taken to be with a grain of salt. 1 people are driven by ego so the focus is on the self 2 the only truth that can be known is Inner truth. I say this because we where not "manifested" in the 3rd person and I belive things happen for a reason the universe knows more then we do. So it shouldn't be a matter of "that person lied to me and is a fraud" but more "ok why is that person a Fraud and what can I learn from this" it has been said many many  times we learn from our mistakes. So basically we can learn something from everything even if it seems to be wrong or A "lie" at first we can still learn something from it and isn't that how we grow by learning and expanding our knowledge and awareness of the world around us?

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Re: How many times... [Re: ElfWizard]
    #3148825 - 09/17/04 05:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

^^ good point above elfwizard, we can learn just as much from lies as we can from truths, as long as we have the right perspective.

But that can also lead you the wrong way 'that was a lie so their is no truth'


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Re: How many times... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3148906 - 09/17/04 05:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well isn't the Best Lie a Half truth well sure it's a Lie but some where in there is Half a truth and isn't half a truth still A truth it's a matter of taking the time to separate the wheat from the Chafe as it where. I don't belive very much in a "wrong way" just a lack of movement as wrong. If you head in the "wrong" Direction you will eventually get to where you where going it will just take you a very very long time and the odds of getting stuck somewhere that much more likely than had you figured out and headed in the "right" direction


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Re: How many times... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3148988 - 09/17/04 05:45 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Long time ago, when I tryed to turn to myself, and found nothing.. 
i thought. trying what is it. to do and to try?
is trying something that happens if you fails?
or is it when you try that it may fail?
and if you just do it instead, and did it, did you still try, given the fact you did not fail? and there, "I" lost myself, as "I" could not find "it" . and how could someone/something you do not know what is, believe something? not that i do not believe i don?t believe, i simply don?t know. nor who/what doesn't know. Hence, can I no longer ?be fooled? as it Require believing in what is said in the first place?
I do not say, ?the circle is round?
I say, ? I could cal that circle round, but what it is, is what it is??

And that change occurred the time I ask Why do I sleep? (in my bed trying to sleep, experiencing jetlag and being insanely depressed to the brink of extension)  And found there was not necessarily an ?I?  who slept, but the thought who think. (got madly happy and have never tried nor felt depressed since, as there is no one to be) I can not explain what im saying, as I do not understand it myself ?yet?, but might be interesting to someone :P  im confused and if I should, truthfully reflect my thinking, I must shut the fuck up :wink: as the only phrase that comes to mind when thinking of ?the answer?  is who ask? And why? And may that be an answer?

don?t know
do know

Someone/ something might se it some way?
Knowledge is something you do not share it is sharing?

Im asking a lot here, but just someone?s  2 cent :p


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Re: How many times... [Re: Gomp]
    #3149025 - 09/17/04 05:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"Im asking a lot here, but just someone?s 2 cent" 
There was a question in THAT? 
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really no dissrespect meant but Gomp you allways lose me even in dday
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"Shoot straight, conserve ammo and never cut a deal with a dragon"
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Pres. Theodore Roosevelt


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Re: How many times... [Re: ElfWizard]
    #3149052 - 09/17/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"and if you just do it instead, and did it, did you still try, given the fact you did not fail?"

I think what you might be referring to it the zen type idea of 'effortless effort' you know? in all the arts the zen wisemen say 'dont try, just do' sort of thing. And they produce all the best artists, painters, archers etc this way


"I do not say, ?the circle is round?
I say, ? I could call that circle round, but what it is, is what it is? "

brillinatly put Gompo!

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oh yeah and above, when i said "that can lead you to the wrong conclusions, Eg. That man lied so their is no truth"

a better example would be "that man lied so the next man must also be lieing"

you know when it comes to spiritual ideas, i think thats one mistake skeptics can make


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Re: How many times... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3149071 - 09/17/04 06:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I feel like I have been jaded as far as putting up with people goes. There are always going to be silly, close-minded people, so I suppose I have lost a certain naiveness towards huamans. I am still open-minded as far as the hope for one day realizing an ultimate truth. Man...that's going to be a great day.


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Re: How many times... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3149091 - 09/17/04 06:11 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

:cool: :thumbup:

hehe, something about the  'don?t try, just do' that is missing. I shall elaborate later if anything comes to mind


edit* i might add that "that is missing" is someting i do not know why im saying if i think it, if i feel it, if there is a "i". just dont know. but i do not claim "it must be that way"
maby words are not decribing my thoughts.. as somone mentioned :wink:


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Re: How many times... [Re: Gomp]
    #3149099 - 09/17/04 06:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

round and round we go where we end up I all ready know  :wink:




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Re: How many times... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3149337 - 09/17/04 07:16 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)


to no one in particular...

lack of compassion closes possibility.

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Re: How many times... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3149380 - 09/17/04 07:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

All roads lead to nowhere. So why not just stay where you are?


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Re: How many times... [Re: PeyoteZen]
    #3149458 - 09/17/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

The Trip is half the fun you should know that "tripper"  :smirk: :wink:


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Frank Herbert's Dune

"Shoot straight, conserve ammo and never cut a deal with a dragon"
Shadowrun street Proverb

To announce there must be no critisism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile but is morally treasonous to the american public
Pres. Theodore Roosevelt


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