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Offlinekadakuda
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P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help.
    #3146102 - 09/17/04 07:34 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

went out again today.  found lots of new ones i havnt seen before and lot sof the same ol same ol.  anyway i came across these.  and looking at these pictures:
http://www.mushroomjohn.com/species/species22abaeo9.jpg
http://www.mushroomjohn.com/species/species22abaeo11.jpg

i think i may have found them.  but got many doubts.  also foudn another type that may be active, but the gills are rather light.

http://www.angelfire.com/bc3/fungus/sept1604.html

here is the description to the 2 different types.  photos at link.

#1-
General: large wet mushroom. foudn in dark areas often by or under logs and ferns.
Habitat: Moist/wet, dark, cedar/maple/fir forest. scattereed other decid./conifers.

Substrate: Wood mulch. under suspended logs under fern fronds etc.

Grouping: all singular but sometimes there were many in a small area, none were attached.

Weather: Rain and small sunny breaks last week-2 weeks. heavy rain last 2 days. temps have droped about 10-15f from previous week. misty/rainy today.

Cap: 1-2.5 inches wide.fairly flat with a little nipple in the middle. most wavy but nothing extreme. brown.

Stem: some fairly long, but good proportion. still rather thick. biggest was about4.5 inches tall (only one that big) most were about2.5 inches. the monster was about 3/8" thick while most were 1/8-1/4". white, very vvery brittle, hollow in middle. fibrouse, like cheese string.

Gills: a lighter version of the cap, much lighter. this is where my doubts come in that its active. but not white.

Texture: wet/slimy. delicate.

Spore Print:


#2
General: Saw TONS of these. was seeing tiny tiny ones that looked similar a while back growign from cones (fir or pine???).
Habitat: moist woody areas. medium to little light. once found there were usually a fair bit. Mostly twigey type areas.

Substrate: wood mulch/mixed with dirt? mainly wood though, soem whole some really decomposed.

Grouping: small to large groups. nto many from the same little root clump, but many scattered around. from 1-4 per "root clump".

Weather: Rain and small sunny breaks last week-2 weeks. heavy rain last 2 days, cloudy and small drizzle when found. temps have droped about 10-15f from previous week.

Cap: light-medium brown/honey. averaged around an inche wide. the perfect looking classic mushroom-umbonate-no nipple

Stem: sturdy stron stem. solid fibrous very bendy. white with soem colour liek the stem in some.

Gills: straight dont attach to each other. cap comes down and the gills go into it making them invisible from a side veiw.

Texture: little moist, but tough feeling. does break easily but not compared to a lot of small mushrooms.

Spore Print:


spore prints should be ready ina couple hours, i will also have pics of the spores at 400 and 1000 times magnified at that time.

did i find any actives this time?  i just know im walking by a ton of actives just thinking that they are some common LBM that doesnt matter  :rolleyes:


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: kadakuda]
    #3146219 - 09/17/04 07:57 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

#1 look like Collybias, similar to Collybia butyracea.

#2 suggest Hygrocybe to me. Try rubbing the gills firmly with a fingertip (hard enough to crush them some) and see if they feel waxy.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3146478 - 09/17/04 08:56 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

dang.

#1 spore print was really light brown almost whitish.

#2 was white  they were waxy :smile:

thanks man...ill keep searching tomarow.  in your opinion what is best, clearcut, forest, feilds (rural type areas), suburbia (lawns)?

according to this site we have these:
Psilocybe baeocystis
Psilocybe cyanafibrillosa
Psilocybe cyanescens
Psilocybe fimetaria
Psilocybe pelliculosa
Psilocybe semilanceata
Psilocybe silvatica
Psilocybe strictipes = Psilocybe callosa
Psilocybe stuntzii
Psilocybe subfimetaria
Panaeolus subbalteatus
Conocybe cyanopus
Gym E1A nopilus luteofolius

and what does the E1A mean in Gymnopilus luteofolius?


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: kadakuda]
    #3146699 - 09/17/04 09:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Most of the Psilo's haven't started fruiting yet dude, most are colder weather woodlovers. I know Liberty Caps have, and I think Stuntzii''s are too, but that may be it.


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: kadakuda]
    #3147051 - 09/17/04 12:51 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

#3 I believe is Clitocybe Gigantea.

I just found some today in Bellevue, WA.

Those others are not baeos. not even close.
I can see how you would think those ones are cyans, but pretty sure they aren't either.


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: mycoguy]
    #3147823 - 09/17/04 07:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

dang.  they are pretty damn huge eh. 

ya all the spore prints were wrong execpt onewas brown, but not the right ones anyway.

thanks for looking guys.  around what temperature (day/night) do they start fruiting at?  i can see my breath at around 7 pm now.

peace :smile:


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: kadakuda]
    #3147993 - 09/17/04 08:25 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

what color spore print did the giant shroom have?


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: mycoguy]
    #3148527 - 09/17/04 10:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

the big one with me in it? white.


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #13448542 - 11/07/10 10:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Snobrdr311 said:
Most of the Psilo's haven't started fruiting yet dude, most are colder weather woodlovers.  I know Liberty Caps have, and I think Stuntzii''s are too, but that may be it.




Very true, cyanescens just started sprouting here in Washington.


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Re: P. baeocystis? P. cyanescens? id help. [Re: Snowday]
    #13448558 - 11/07/10 10:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Snobrdr311 said:
Most of the Psilo's haven't started fruiting yet dude, most are colder weather woodlovers.  I know Liberty Caps have, and I think Stuntzii''s are too, but that may be it.




Very true, cyanescens just started sprouting here in Washington.




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