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Offlinekadakuda
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Need id again. Pan sub or better?
    #3141884 - 09/16/04 02:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i dotn know much about the actives here unfortunatly but im hoping to get the hang of it this season.  anyway everything is here http://www.angelfire.com/bc3/fungus/sept1504.html 

Coprinus atramentarius???

the top one is the one i need help with.  the pics and description are at the link.  i cant link pics unfortunatly, but here is the description:

General: Very brittle little mushroom. found next to some weird shaped grey/black caped mushrooms. very moist wood.
Habitat: Moist/wet, dark, cedar/maple/fir forest. scattereed other decid./conifers.

Substrate: Wood. at the base of dieing tree in wood mulch.

Grouping: Grew in groups. 1-10ish per group.

Weather: Rain and small sunny breaks last week. heavy rain last 2 days. temps have droped about 10-15f from previous week. misty today.

Cap: Medium brown in the center/top of cap, light brown in meddle turning really dark at the lower potions of the cap. The older caps were really dark/black. quite brittle, moist but not sticky. 1/2-1" wide same for height. Conical.

Stem: 2-4" high, pretty thin 1/8-1/4" thick. fibrous but very weak. crushes easily, but always splits length wise. see pic.

Gills: Black. everything gets black when it touches.

Smell: no smell, jsut like the wood it grows out of.

Texture: small groves going top to bottom of cap. very fine but can feel it. wet/slight slimy.

Spore Print: BLACK.

Does that coral look like Ramaria stricta?

Also found my all time favorite mushroom from around here!!!  only seen em 3 times, but i am alsways thrilled everytime.  Pseudohydnum gelatinosum.



thanks for any help :smile:


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Edited by kadakuda (09/16/04 02:37 AM)


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Re: Need id again. Pan sub or better? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3142135 - 09/16/04 02:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The Coprinus atramentarius I have found have been much more gray and not brown like yours. I would lean more towards C. micaceus or C. domesticus or one of the other very similar species.

If you want to figure it out for sure, here's a key that will let you do that. Warning - a microscope is required for an accurate ID.

Happy mushrooming!


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Re: Need id again. Pan sub or better? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3142201 - 09/16/04 03:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The <I>Coprinus atramentarius</I> I have found have been much more gray and not brown like yours. I would lean more towards <I>C. micaceus</I> or <I>C. domesticus</I> or one of the other very similar species.



Yep, I agree. Also, Atramentarius is much more 'massive' in its appearance. The cap is really solid and heavy. I picked a medium sized Atramentarius last year and the single specimen weighed in at about 300g.


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Re: Need id again. Pan sub or better? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3142255 - 09/16/04 03:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for the look. i dotn knwo much about shrooms, or my borrowed shitty camera but i can use the scope pretty well. please excuse the shat pictures, the digi im using is pretty cheap.
400 times Mg.


1000 tiems Mag.


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Re: Need id again. Pan sub or better? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #3142265 - 09/16/04 03:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i did take a brief look at the site you gave, very much appreciated.  too tired right now to look in depth but tomarow will bring a whole new light :smile:

also would gettting a pic of the spores under the microscope be a wise idea for IDing?  i can do it easy enough, jsut need to borrow the camera.  i can go 40/100/400/1000 on my mic.  whats best for active species?


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